Purpose gets tossed around like a feel-good slogan, right up until you’re staring at a real crossroads and the fear of the unknown gets loud.
We wanted something more useful than “find your why,” so we brought on Ian Chamandy to explain a clear, repeatable way to find your purpose and turn it into a practical decision-making tool.
Ian shares how flunking out of university led to an unexpected breakthrough: realizing he could translate complex ideas into simple truth. That theme became the foundation for his work helping organizations define what makes them uniquely remarkable at their essence, not their marketing blur. Then he adapted the same process for individuals, using real accomplishments to uncover the pattern underneath your best moments.
We walk through his framework of beliefs, wants, and talents, and why your purpose statement should be seven words or less. The goal is simple: make it easy to understand, easy to remember, and easy to repeat so it can guide choices during trigger events like graduation, layoffs, career change, divorce, illness, or retirement. We also talk about confidence and why discovering your “superpower” changes the baseline way you move through the world.
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To connect and work with Ian individually visit his website: purposeu.ai or if you are an organization visit this website: 7words.biz
To download a free chapter of host Sylvia Worsham’s bestselling book, In Faith, I Thrive: Finding Joy Through God’s Masterplan, purchase any of her products, or book a call with her, visit her website at www.sylviaworsham.com
Transcript:
If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry and wondering what your true purpose was all about, then this podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham.
I’ve still got a lot of fun left in me.
Hey librarian, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to Released Out Reveal Purpose. And today is Ian Schmandy. And he has a story to tell centered around purpose. Now we know that the podcast is released out reveal purpose because everyone in life is searching for why am I here? What am I here to do? This is the purpose of our life. And some of us land in wrong acts, the first act, until something major happens and it forces us to shift our lens. And so that’s why we dig deep into stories of transformation. And I’m sure Ian has a story of transformation to share with us. So without further ado, Ian, thank you so much for joining us on Release Doubt Reveal Purpose.
My pleasure, Sylvia. Thank you for the opportunity.
It’s awesome that you’re all the way in Canada joining us. We’ve been talking all things tequila prior to the podcast. That was fun. Almost.
Almost. One broken bat away from a world championship.
Oh my goodness, that had to have hurt. I don’t know. That’s just me.
You know what I’ll tell you? I know we’re not here to talk about baseball, but there’s losing bad and there’s losing good. And we lost real good to a really good team. So there’s no shame in that. And yeah, hurt to lose, but we lost good. You know, we had we can hold our heads up high.
Yes, yes, that’s all that matters, right? Now where do you start with how you finish? And if you finish well and you give it your all, that’s all. Anybody else?
Yep.
Yeah. So yeah, perfect. Oh my gosh, Ian. So tell us what happened at universities. Why the shift there?
Um, the shift there happened because um it was a real you know, one of the major stories of university was flunking out the first two years. And um uh so then I took a year off and I came back, and I had to figure out like how to get a degree. And I decided I was only going to do courses that required papers because I could research a paper and I could write, and I couldn’t study for exams. So I was taking this course, and it was a really thick book for the course. And um I had to write a paper, it was a philosophy course of all things that I had to write a paper on DNA. Now, this was back in um early 80s, so you know, DNA was pretty young back then. No one really knew what it was, but I happened to have a roommate who was um taking his PhD in genetic biology. So I ended up writing my paper. It was sort of like DNA for dummies, and um, so what I had to do is I had to interview him, I had to figure out what the heck he was saying, and then I had to explain it in a way that a layperson could understand. And um that was a transformative experience for me because what I realized when I wrote that paper is that I could understand anything, absolutely anything, on the logic level. There was nothing that I couldn’t understand. Now, to understand it to the depth that my roommate knew it, I don’t have the discipline, you know, to become a PhD and go that deep in one area, but I can understand anything on a logic level, and I can simplify it to explain it to people who, you know, so I can be sort of that translator in between. And um so the next step in that transformation was when I in my first job I was a copywriter in advertising, and I’m sitting in front of my typewriter, I’m dating myself, sitting in front of my typewriter, and I am writing drivel, absolute drivel. And I’m like, I I want to write, I want to get to sort of the heart of what the product or the brand or the company is, and I want to write with authenticity and blah, blah, blah. And I’m writing cliches. So I went to an art director and I said, Can you please make me a sign that says, Is this true? And I put it up on the wall behind my typewriter so that it was a constant reminder of the words that I’m writing true to the brand or the product or the company. Sadly, that did not make me a better copywriter, and my career kind of ended there. But I became obsessed with this notion of is that true? Is this true? And that became my quest. Uh, sort of like a quest through I had a variety of careers, and um, I ended up in a career that is a is that true career. But 20 years ago, I sorry, I’m on a long monologue here. Is that it’s not giving you the chance to ask me questions. Let me know if you want to break in. But I’m coming, I’m coming in for a landing here. So I you know, I started this business with a partner, and the purpose of the business was to define what makes an organization uniquely remarkable at its essence, not the marketing blather that’s out there about how great it is or how great its products is. At your essence. Like look at a company like IBM, right? At its essence, what is it that makes it uniquely remarkable? And you know, the challenge for a company like IBM is it’s a big sprawling global company with a lot of moving parts. And you can say, how can there be one thing that makes this company uniquely remarkable? Well, there is. What was IBM doing after the war, after the Second World War? It was providing um the leading edge technology to the biggest companies in the world. What’s it doing today? It’s prior providing leading edge technology to the biggest companies in the world. There is something inside that organization that through decades and decades and decades of management, different management, it stayed on this course. And what I wanted to understand was what what kept companies like IBM and Apple and Nike on this really successful course. And so we developed this process where we define what makes a company uniquely remarkable, the one thing at its essence. And then during COVID, what I did is I adapted it to individuals, that process that I’ve been using for the last 20 years. I adapted it to individuals so that you can define what makes you uniquely remarkable. What is it at your essence as a person that makes you uniquely remarkable? And once you know that, you can then live a purpose-filled life because you know what your purpose is. Can’t live a purpose-filled life until you know what your purpose is.
Remarkable. I do want to see how this works in action, though. So maybe use me as um as a guinea pig and kind of show me how you would guide me into identifying what makes me unique for the listeners. Would that help?
Yes, sure. So but before I do, let me just you know, in conversations about purpose, there’s millions of conversations out there in articles and podcasts and blogs and all that. Everybody talk purpose, purpose, purpose, purpose. But nobody says what it is. What is purpose? Right? And I think that if you asked a hundred people on the street, they would say, Why I exist. That’s the best answer they could come up with. How the heck do you answer that question? Why do I exist? Picasso, the artist, had a great quote The meaning of life is to find your gift. Your purpose is to share it with the world. What he’s basically saying is figure out what the best possible you is, and your purpose is to share that with the world. Well, most people in the world don’t know what the best possible you is. And so what I said, I help companies define what makes them uniquely remarkable. That is their gift, that is the best possible them that we’re defining. And in this course that I offer on how to find your purpose, it’s the same thing. And what we do, the way I lead you through that process in the course, is I get you to identify two accomplishments, ideally, one from career and one from your personal life. Because in an accomplishment where you’re very proud of your role and the outcome, your purpose was raging there. It was fully engaged, right? You’re in that flow state, you’re loving what you’re doing, and and then you’re so proud of the outcome and of your of your role in causing that outcome. Could have been you alone, could have been you as a cast of thousands, doesn’t matter. And then what we do is we I I lead you through a step-by-step process to break those accomplishments down until at the end, what they reveal is three baskets of you your beliefs, your wants, and your talents. And everybody’s personality, who they are, is defined by their own unique combination of beliefs, wants, and talents. And you know, there’s an infinite number of combinations and permutations there, which is why there are no two Sylvias in the world. Right? Even if you had a twin. Right? No two Sylvias in the world. So because and then what we do is we use those three buckets of beliefs, wants, and talents as the raw data to then reveal your purpose. Because your beliefs, wants, and talents are you, and your purpose is you. So your purpose is your beliefs, wants, and talents. And um, and so that’s really the first aha moment in taking the course is the holy cow. I mean, I guess I kind of knew these were always my beliefs, wants, and talents, but I never could have articulated them. Now I can’t. Now I know what makes me me. And then the next step is to say, in partnership with our AI assistant called Wordsmith, you know, there’s when you take the course, right? Sylvie, you’re sitting in front of your computer, you’re taking the course. You got me sitting on one side of you with a series of videos, they’re all short, like two minutes, five minutes, but I walk you through step by step how to work your way through the exercises. And then on the other side is Wordsmith. And Wordsmith is fine, help does two things. It helps you find a better way of saying something when you’re stuck on the words, so it gives you helps you make better answers. And then when we get to the beliefs, wants, and talents at the bottom, we use Wordsmith to see what we can’t see. And what it has an amazing ability to do is look at those that you know, those three buckets and say, here are some options for purpose statements that tie all these beliefs, wants, and talents together. And I forgot to mention that our standard is always to define that purpose in seven words or less. So we’re not talking about a paragraph, a page, or a document to define your purpose. It’s got to be in seven words or less. And I know that doesn’t sound like a lot, but the reality is it’s usually two or three or four.
So why seven words or less?
Um, okay, so I have two answers for that. I have the real answer, and then I have the smug answer. And the smug answer is why not? Why not? Why not do the work just to get it short? It can always be done. Like I said, it can always, it’s usually two or three or four words. But that the not smug answer is the three easies. And um, so it’s easy to understand, easy to remember, and easy to repeat, right? So if it’s in seven words or less, it’s going to be so self-evident that it’s easy to remember. I’ll give you an example. My special skill, my secret sauce, the one thing that makes me uniquely remarkable in Picasso’s word, my gift, is transforming confusion into clarity. So if you think back to what I told you is my origin story in university, on the one side of me I had complexity. And that was Bruce talking to me about DNA in scientific terms, and me saying, Well, what? And then on the other side is the um is the paper I wrote, which was DNA for dummies, which anybody can read and understand DNA. So there’s the process of transforming confusion into clarity. That’s why my that’s why that’s my my origin story. But Sylvia, now that I’ve told you my my purpose statement, right, so it’s easy to remember, you’re not going to forget it. I’m sorry, it’s easy to understand, easy to remember, you’re not going to forget it. But here’s the really magical part. The third easy is that it’s easy to repeat. So if you run into some after this podcast, after we record this, if you ran into somebody and they were saying, Oh man, I’ve got this really complex problem in my business, and we keep tabling it because we can’t come up with a solution. I don’t have to tell you any more about my purpose statement. Then I’m about transforming confusion into clarity. For you to then say to that person, hey, I know somebody who’s a who their whole thing is transforming that kind of kind of complexity into clarity. I don’t know how he does it, I don’t know anything more about it, but I know that that’s his magic. And so you may want to talk to him, right? So easy to understand, easy to remember, easy to repeat. That’s why seven words are less.
Well, that’s neat. Your secret sauce. So then what were your two things? You you said one was the secret sauce, what made you unique. But what was the personal and the professional accomplishment for you?
Oh, I didn’t so um I I I chose there was a project that I did in a previous business, and um we were hired to reduce high school students’ exposure to secondhand smoke. Because you know the kids go out in a spare and they’re all standing in a group. And I mean, this doesn’t happen that much now, but back in my day, half of my high school colleagues smoked. So we’d be standing, sorry, I’m trying not to sneeze here. We’d be standing in a group of like six or eight people in a spare, and half of them are smoking. And I’m inhaling it because I’m standing there. And what they wanted to do is they wanted to reduce that, right? But they had neither the budget nor the time to do a multi-year to change like we did with you know, drunk driving and seat belts, right? Both of our countries did that, but it took decades. So I had to come up with a way to get smoking students to stop smoking, to make the choice themselves to stop smoking in other students. And if you’re in a group and you want to light up, back away, smoke, then come back. And I was very proud of the technique that we used to do that. So that was my that was my business one, and then my personal one when I was a kid, I was um I played hockey, house league, you know, nothing special. And every car ride home, my father would give me the critique of my game, and it was always so demoralizing. But I knew that that’s very common, doesn’t matter the sport, football, baseball, hockey, basketball, that same car ride happens with tons and tons of kids, and it’s demoralizing for all of them. And I didn’t want any of the kids on my team to go through that. So I always had an open dressing room policy. I made sure that the parents were in the dressing room for the first game of the season, and I said, okay, here’s what we’re gonna do. Parents, you need to watch the game very closely and pick out two things that your child did really well in that game. And on the way home, I want you to have a conversation with them about the two things that they did really well. So now this social contract has been created in public where all the parents nod their heads and say, Yes, I will do that. And now they are accountable to their child. Their child is going to be sitting in the backseat saying, Okay, give it to me. Where was I great? And if they don’t, I’m gonna find out and I’m gonna correct that. But that that never had to happen, right? And then in the second half of the year, um, I expanded it because I wanted, I didn’t just want the kid, the parents to say, hey, here’s what you did that was great. I then expanded it to say, okay, kids, you also need to identify two things in your game that you thought you did really well, and tell your parents in the car ride on the way home. So that they’re self-identifying. They are basically, you know, giving themselves the compliments, the acknowledgement of what they did great. So, anyway, those were my two, and I broke them down and uh went through the process, and that’s how I ended up with transforming confusion into clarity.
That sounds amazing. It sounds very clear and logical, and quite frankly, to the point, which should be easy for people to follow when you’re guiding them. Because you’re right now you’re you’re guiding individuals on this, correct?
That’s right. That’s that’s who takes the course is individuals, yeah.
Okay. Now, who’s your target audience right now? Like what age groups are they? Who do you think are out there looking for their purpose?
Right. So we don’t define our target audience in the typical way that uh, you know, a communications firm or a marketing department would. Um what we do is we define our target audience by life situations, and those life situations we call trigger events. And those are events that cause uncertainty in our lives. So if you want to sort of go through it um, you know, chronologically through an adult’s life, right? The first thing is you graduate, if you if you go to university, you graduate, and uh all of a sudden that’s sort of like the transition from being a kid to an adult. And um, you know, so there’s there’s that, there’s you know, career, there’s career change, whether that is by choice or by layoff or by firing. Um, you know, there’s marriage, there’s empty nests, there’s divorce, there’s illness, there’s retirement. These are all trigger events, and they all do the same thing. There’s the same process in a trigger event. The first thing is the trigger event happens. The next thing is you have all sorts of unanswered. Questions, right? Like imagine you get laid off in your job. You weren’t expecting that. That’s a big disruption in your life. And now there are all sorts of questions that don’t have answers right now. You know, where am I going to do? How am I going to pay myself? How am I going to pay the rent? What if I, you know, can I am going to get another job quickly? Am I going to be accepted there? You know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And because a trigger event causes so many unanswered questions, what happens when we have unanswered questions? We feel anxiety. Right? So even if you choose to change your career, it’s your choice. You’re still going to have those unanswered questions about what it’s going to be like in your next gig. And um, yeah, so so that’s the process. It’s a trigger event, unanswered questions, those unanswered questions uh create uncertainty, and that uncertainty creates anxiety. And so the process of answering those questions is what the the trigger event causes those questions, which creates anxiety, and it’s the answering of those questions, it’s the clarity about them that causes your anxiety to go down. And here’s the thing about purpose, right? Like people talk about wanting to live a purpose-filled life because they want the fulfillment of it. And yes, no question, that’s a benefit. But what’s the process? What are the mechanics that get you to fulfillment? And the mechanics are the way purpose works is you have an unanswered question, and you would normally say, What do I do here? Well, that’s a broad question to ask. When you say, What are what options available to me here are aligned with my purpose? All of a sudden, the narrow field, the field narrows to a few choices. And those choices are all candidates because they’re aligned with your purpose, they all make logical sense to you, and they feel right because they’re aligned with your purpose. So, purpose, here’s here’s you know this the secret about purpose. It’s a decision-making tool. You have a decision to make rather than saying what do I do here? You say, What options are aligned with my purpose? And that is a much when you know your purpose, when I know I’m about confusion uh uh transforming confusion into clarity, I just say which option is most aligned with that. Maybe I could give you a case study of um a colleague of mine who um used her purpose. She was actually a CEO, and we were having drinks after work. And she said, Um, I’m I’m bored at work now, but the company’s running itself. And I said, Well, it sounds like it’s time for a new gig for you. And she said, Yeah, I know that, but I’m scared to death. Okay, so this was her third CEO gig. She graduated from high school when she was 16, she got her BA when she was 18, she got her MBA when she was 20. This, you know, there was no shortage of accomplishment in this woman. And yet, she’s like anybody else. She is making a choice for a career change, and it’s scaring her to death. Why? Because there’s so many unanswered questions.
Yeah, it’s the fear of the unknown. When I interview people for my book on turning points, I interviewed men and women alike. And I said, What is the greatest fear for you when it when it comes to change? And they’re like, fear of the unknown. Right. It’s the number one fear for them. They don’t want to move from their circumstances because that’s what they know.
The devil you know versus the devil you don’t know.
Yeah. And but you need to take that step in faith.
Yep.
And that step right there is the most power, powerful step you’ll take. That’s the one that really gets your heart pumping, right? Almost out of your chest. Because you don’t know what’s before you, but you also don’t know what’s beyond you. It could be the best thing for you. But we’re always conditioned to look for the negative because then the mind, the subconscious mind, is there’s no filter. So there’s so many messages out in it in this, and I do call it the fallen world. It is pretty fallen. There’s a lot out there that’s noise that doesn’t benefit us.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, watch the watch the transformation in this woman’s mindset just by knowing her purpose. So um, you know, I happen to do this, we just did it over drinks that day. Um, but I just started firing questions at her. And after a while, I said, you know what, you’re you’re conjuring up in my mind this, you know, this I I’m sorry, I don’t know military, so I don’t know what a troop is or what a, but you know, there’s a whole bunch of soldiers, and they’ve just been in a terrible battle, and they’re now marching back to you know to wherever they’re marching to, and they come upon a minefield, and it’s like, oh my god, one thing after another. When does it end? And how do I get across this alive? And then a new leader comes to you just as you as you reach that minefield, and she stands in front of you and she says, Um, oh, sorry, I forgot to finish. I said the the the image it’s it’s that’s cropping up in my mind is you leading safely across a minefield. Right? So go back to the story now. You got all these soldiers, they’re just at their wit’s end, and this leader comes to them and says, Don’t worry, I’ve crossed a thousand minefields safely. I’m an expert in how to get safely across the minefield. Follow me, and I will get you safely across the minefield. Well, you can imagine the soldiers hearing that, they’re going, Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just tell me what to do. Just get me to the other side in one piece. Like that. Her purpose, because of their situation, resonates on a deep emotional level with those soldiers. And so they follow her safely across the minefield. Now, how that translates into her search, and this is you know, this is what I’m talking about about purpose being a decision-making tool. So a recruiter, an executive recruiter comes to her and she says, I got this great job for you. It’s a company that is just, you know, on a steep growth curve, and um it needs a leader who can come in and keep it on that course so that it keeps the, you know, that it keeps going. Up and up and up. Now, 99 out of a hundred CEO candidates would look at an opportunity like that and say, sign me up, give me that tomorrow. That sounds fantastic. She says, uh, not really my thing. No, I get I get bored too quickly in that. I need, you know, I need something that’s like a tire fire. And the recruiter said, Well, I’ve got this, I’ve got this pile of burning garbage over here, but I’m an artist to show it to you. And she says, No, no, no, no, no. That’s what I want. That’s what I want. Give me that that steaming pile of garbage so that I can lead those people safely through the minefield back to profitability. Right? So that’s so what? If she didn’t know her purpose, she probably would have said, Oh, yeah, yeah, give me that good company, and she would have been bored within a year.
Yeah.
Right?
And she would have moved on, and it would have been just one more year that she didn’t discover her purpose or didn’t live out her purpose.
Didn’t live out her purpose. It would have been a wasted year for her. Yeah.
So what have you found to be the number one change in the people that you work with? Like, is it divorce? Is it like after divorce that they seek purpose? Have you done those numbers that you pulled out? Like analytics on that or no?
All of them are all of the trigger events, right? Are are legitimate times when people start going out and looking for purpose. And you know that so that those are the people. I was in a supermarket once, and there were these two mothers behind me, and they were talking about the crisis of graduation from university. The crisis of graduation. Right? But it was for both them and the child, because they got kind of comfortable in their empty nest, and now they’ve got a child coming back who is disrupting their routine. And but also they’re very concerned about their child. They want them to land in the right place and you know, and and get a good job and and have a good life. And for the child, it’s a crisis because it’s like, oh my god, I’ve got to be an adult now. How do you do that? Well, if you I thought the question you were gonna ask was what’s what’s the biggest change in the person? And the biggest change in the person when they know their um when they know their purpose is their confidence, right? Is the confidence for this student to make better decisions, to know that they’re going to make better decisions about their future. I have this belief, you know, we’re about 8 billion people in the world, I have this belief that at least half of them are walking around saying there’s nothing special about me. And because there’s nothing special about me, I don’t deserve anything special, and I can’t do anything special. And I’m here to tell you that as long as everybody has their own unique set of beliefs, wants, and talents, there are no two people in the world who are like you, not even your twin. And because of that, there is something that makes you uniquely remarkable. And when you discover what your superpower is, I want to word it like that, because you then realize that you have a superpower, and that elevates your confidence, and nobody can take that superpower away from you. So your baseline confidence gets elevated permanently because you know that you have this superpower, and that superpower can help you find your way through the world, making better decisions about things that are going to be aligned with you. Your purpose acts as a proxy for your beliefs, wants, and talents. So when you say this option is aligned with my purpose, what you’re really saying is it’s aligned with my beliefs, wants, and talents. That’s why it’s so self-evident to you and everyone else. And that’s why it feels right.
Very cool. No, I I I can totally see your the process now. You’ve you’ve shared a case study which was very enlightening. I really enjoyed it because then I could see how just by asking the questions about belief, talent and wants, right? And I could see that it would make it very, very clear uh to people. And that way, once it’s aligned, that it there’s no fear anymore. That fear that was once there, it’s it’s gone. It’s never to come again, as long as you know what your purpose is and and what aligns to it or doesn’t align to it. So now that we’ve gotten through the case study, if I wanted to work with you or wanted to send you a company, small business, or whatever, um, how do we find you? Okay, what kind of programs do you have to offer?
So there’s two different ways to find me because I have one methodology and it has two applications, one for business, one for individuals. So those are companies. I have a company called Blueprint. And so if you want to define what makes you uniquely remarkable, which is essentially your brand, if you want to be able to articulate your brand in seven words or less, then that company is blueprint. And you can find me at um at the number seven words, right? Because I always define purpose in seven words or less. So it’s the number seven words.biz, seven words.biz. And if you’re an individual and you want to take my course, the course is at purpose you. So so if you can imagine the word purpose with the letter U at the end, like university, right? So purpose you dot AI. And you just have to remember that it is an artificial intelligence powered course, so that you remember, you know, the AI domain, purpose you dot AI.
Awesome. Any last words of encouragement for the listeners of released out reveal purpose?
Um You know, I probably would have said, if I didn’t say this already, about about the you know, the eight million people in the world, um, if you don’t think that there is something uniquely remarkable about you, I’m just gonna tell you you’re flat out wrong. And if you look for it, you’ll find it, and it will change your life. If you want to start, you know, the play, the very first place to start is to consider this question. If everything that you do and say is a means to an end, what’s the end purpose? And what that forces you to do, right? Like a lot of people say, Oh, my you know, my purpose is working for charity. No. Your purpose is something else, and working for for a charity is how you execute your purpose. Your purpose is not out there, your purpose is in here, right? Um, so what that question forces you to do is say, oh no, no, none of my activities are a purpose. None of the things I say or do are my purpose. My purpose, those things all flow from my purpose. So it makes you look a level higher. And now you gotta say, well, what’s the common thread to all this stuff then? If you figure out your purpose in seven words or less by doing that, all the more power to you. It’s really it’s really, really difficult because you can’t do therapy on yourself, usually. Um, but that’s a good start because it gets you thinking in the right direction.
Okay. Sounds amazing. It really does. It really, really does. Thank you so much for joining us, Ian.
My pleasure.
I learned a lot, a lot, a lot about purpose. And it has my wheels turning a lot more than usual. I’ll have to look at my tagline and my branding now to see if it’s something that would be an alignment for me to do um at this moment in time. And um, for the listeners who released out reveal purpose, remember Matthew 5.14 to be your light. Be the light. That’s the same thing. That’s the same thing. It’s the same thing. Same thing. Be your light, express your light.
But seven words or less. You gotta know what your light is if you’re going to be your light.
Yeah, you gotta know what it is, gotta know what I know what lights you up, what you could do for hours and hours, and and not really call it work, you know. And if you don’t know, sometimes working with people that can help you pull that out of you is probably the best way to go. So seek help. Ian’s a good resource. If not, there’s other people, you know, there’s other resources around you. You can always turn inward for those answers as well. Your intuition, that voice that whispers, usually will give you some clarity as well. Yep. So uh just want to remind everybody to have a wonderful and blessed rest of your week, Ian. Thank you so much for joining us.
Thank you, Sylvia. It was great.
It was awesome. Love you all. Bye now.
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