What if the stories you’ve tried to bury are the very compass that leads you to purpose?
We sit down with Lisa, a survivor-turned-podcast host and workshop leader, to trace a raw, hope-filled arc from childhood abuse and family secrecy to voice, service, and durable joy. She shares how early messages and unstable dynamics hardwired survival mode, why talk therapy wasn’t enough, and how trauma-informed modalities like EMDR helped decouple past pain from present triggers.
Together, we unpack the mechanics of healing: noticing when your body surges from calm to chaos, inserting a pause before words cause damage, and replacing self-criticism with simple, repeatable language shifts. Lisa describes the difficult surrender from control to trust, and how that single move created room for boundaries, rest, and compassionate clarity about her parents’ unhealed trauma.
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Transcript:
If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry and wondering what your true purpose was all about, then this podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham.
Hey Lightbringers, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to Release Out Reveal Purpose. And today is Lisa Tickle. And I read her profile on Podmatch.com. And for those that don’t know what PodMatch is, is basically match.com for podcast hosts and guests. But in this case, she’s not just a podcast guest, she is also a podcast host. And she does this because she found herself experiencing trauma in her childhood, both from her parents and brother. And it was so uh traumatizing for her that she was just like, I really need someone to help me through this healing journey. And so she went through all of it herself, and now she’s created this podcast that kind of shines light on trauma. And she shares the tips that she wishes she had had as she was navigating these chapters. So without further ado, Lisa, thank you so much for joining us on Released Out Reveal Purpose.
Sylvia, thank for excuse me, thank you for having me here. I really appreciate you giving me a place to have a voice as well as others. It’s so important.
It really is because trauma is everywhere. And most people think of trauma and they shy away from the healing part of trauma. They just want to avoid it, avoid it, avoid it. And they think, well, the more I push it down, the less I’ll feel it. The problem is with trauma as coaches, we understand the more you push it down, the more it comes up, the more it surfaces, the more it projects and attracts exactly what you don’t want to attract into your life. So I know that this journey that you’ve been on has been extremely powerful. So I’d really like for you to take us down this amazing story of transformation that landed you as a podcast host.
Oh, thank you. I would love to share. So uh yeah, my abuse was everything but sexual abuse, and it started as far back as I can remember. That picture of over here. That picture is as far back as I can remember. And it came from my brother. Well, what I realized very at a very young age is my brother was definitely abusing me. What I didn’t see, which is very common, is the abuse that my parents contributed to uh to the whole fiasco. So my brother, my brother was seven years older than me, and as far and like I said, as far back as I can remember, we didn’t get along, and I didn’t understand at the time what it was about. And my brother also started doing drugs at a very young age, like 13. I can remember him doing drugs. So you take somebody who already wasn’t very stable and then put them, and he didn’t do he did the heavy-duty drugs, so he would come home even more unstable, so it was even more unpredictable. The role that my parents had in it was um my dad had it, they both had their own trauma, right? Unheeled trauma. And so with my dad, he didn’t protect me at all. As a matter of fact, there was one time when my brother was going off on my mom and she said, Go find your dad, and I searched the house. He was in the bedroom, in their bedroom, hiding in the corner, like literally hiding. Yeah, so that clearly, you know, I can logically I can look at it and say, Okay, the seven-year-old kid in him was probably scared, but you have a someone going off on your wife and daughter. So, you know, that kind of gives you a flavor of my dad and then my mom, everything was okay until around uh junior high for me. Ooh, then I started putting weight on, and the weight was coming from emotional eating. I did not understand that or know that at all. I didn’t understand why I was putting weight on, and that’s when she became vicious with me. And I think it was because I wasn’t her pretty little girl anymore that she could dress up. Um, and it got to the point where she even said, I’m not buying you any more clothes till you lose weight. And I didn’t even know, I didn’t know how I was gaining weight, let alone how to lose weight. So she got pretty vicious with me, and then when I was uh 14, uh we found out she had breast cancer, and uh and so I didn’t find that out from my mom, I found that out from a neighbor who picked me up from school to share the news with me. So, you know, the secret started. So she um she fought the cancer. Uh she ended up I loot I lost her when I was 16, and that was another situation where they didn’t even tell me she was dying. I was helping her out every day, giving her shots of morphine, you know, washing clothes, going grocery shopping, doing everything I could to help, thinking she’s gonna get better. I had no idea. I even confronted my father and he flat out lied to me. So I was quite shocked when I go rushing to the hospital, because she was rushed to the hospital while I was at school, to find out the doctor announcing that she might not make it through the night, maybe three days, and walks away. So that’s how I found out about my mom. So I lost her at 16, and um and my dad just became a real basket case. I mean, that my mom was pretty much his world, and he just shut down and turned to me and said, You know what? I can’t afford to take care of you. You’re gonna have to quit school and go get a job and take care of yourself. And here I th I thought I was going to college, I was gonna finish high school and go to college, the first person in my family to go to college, and no, that was next. So you’re kind of getting a flavor of of what I was going through. And during all this, I was aware, and I don’t know how, but I was aware that I was being abused by my brother. And I was also um thinking, gosh, I shouldn’t have any children, you know, I because I understand somehow I understood that that that can be passed on. So I did a lot of praying, and I promised God, if you give me children, I promise I won’t hurt them. And he blessed me with a beautiful son. Um, I eventually got married and and had this beautiful son. What I also went into my adult life believing um that affected so much of my life was uh when I was about 11, my brother told me we were having a normal conversation like you and I are having, and he announced to me that nobody likes you. You know, mom and dad’s friends, like nobody likes you, they they hate you. And I believed him, I believed him in a flash, and I my I remember it felt like somebody punched me in the chest, it really did. And I was devastated because I thought, well, I didn’t think I was that bad of a kid. I I didn’t understand why they didn’t like me. So I went into my adult life believing that nobody liked me, nobody loved me, and I was on a mission to find a man that was gonna love me. I was on a mission, and I found them. I found them at a young age, and so two people with uh a very tough past came together and tried to make a life together, and I spent the majority of my adult life in survival mode, in victim mindset. I did do healing, I did do some healing on my own, and a lot of this honestly was me and God. Honestly, it there wasn’t trauma therapy, there wasn’t the podcast, there wasn’t the books, there wasn’t, you know, there was therapy, but there wasn’t trauma therapy, and there’s a difference between talk therapy and trauma therapy. We need trauma therapy because, like you were saying, it gets in our body, it’s in our subconscious, and we need the modalities to help pull those out. That wasn’t around, so I kind of did stuff on my own, and what’s amazing and why I know it was God is because I, you know, I look back on it and I’m like, that makes so much sense that I decided to do that, but there was nobody, no person that told me. And so my my healing was very slow. And then in the early 2000s, uh I went through a women’s childhood abuse healing workshop that was with my church at the time. I argued with God about going because I said, No, no, no, no, I’ve healed, I I I I I’ve forgiven my brother, I’m good. And he argued with me and he won, and I said, Okay, I’m gonna go. And it was a six-week workshop. And uh that’s where I discovered the that’s where I became aware of the abuse from my parents. So then fast forward a little bit, I took over the workshop with another friend because the lady that handled the workshop wanted to retire, so she handed it over, which was amazing. I did that for eight years. I helped women heal, I helped them start their healing journey, and of course, I went through a whole bunch of healing because when you’re doing this stuff, you’re gonna go through your own healing, right? Yep. So that was an honor to that was really an honor. I did that for eight years, and and then I went through in 2011, I went through a divorce and had had done some healing, but not had not healed that part of me that needed to be loved. And so I was on a mission again, had to find another man to love me, and I found one, and he was a full-on narcissist, which does not surprise me. Um, we were married a year and a half when he passed from cancer, um, and that’s where I took a big step back, and I had to look at myself because I automatically wanted to go looking for another man, and I did get myself into some trauma therapy, and I started learning about the modalities, and then in 2016 is when I discovered my voice because my voice had been shut down, and I began to under learn about me, who what my identity is, because my identity was not a mom, it wasn’t a wife, it wasn’t a sister, it wasn’t a friend. I needed to figure out who I was without all that. And um I met an amazing man who’s now my husband, who is willing to go on that journey with me. So what this brought me to creating the podcast, or how it brought me, is as I mentioned before we started recording, is my goal in building the podcast, as well as I now have a women’s childhood abuse healing workshop and a healing community, is what were the things that I needed? What was it that I needed at the time that I can provide that can help men and women on the podcast um begin their healing journey? Get brave enough. Because, like you’re saying, people shut down when it comes to trauma. It’s not a fun subject, and there’s also people that are so afraid of healing. That I don’t understand because I’ve always sought after healing, so I don’t un you know fully understand that part of it, but it’s there, it’s there, and sometimes we just like to be comfortably uncomfortable, it’s not bad enough. So that’s why I built the podcast. Um, is I wanted it to get around the world. I wanted it, if if I just even touch one person, and that person decides, you know what, I’m gonna try that, and that gets them on their healing journey, it’s worth it.
And that’s exactly what God places in our heart to do to restore us. Yeah. If you think about it. Because he’s bringing us back to the part that most terrified us, that hurt us the most. Yeah. And then as we work through it with others, we ourselves heal again. And I thought that was a point to really highlight because most people shy away from it and say, I don’t want to go through that again. But what you don’t realize is when you go through it in helping another human being and using what you’ve learned and helping them through that piece that you’ve already been stuck in for years and years, and you know the shortcut to joy. Our responsibility as humans is not to keep that for ourselves, but to give it away because God gave that to us freely.
To share, to share it.
And that was when I wrote my book, the very first one, the first edition. It was very painful to go back to these turning points in my life, because it was about turning points and how turning points really is an invitation by God to shift your lens into the person he created you to be before the trauma, before those, before those things shadowed your bright light and pushed it down. Who were you created to be? And so to go and go through my bullying years and for the editor to say, okay, share some more details about who is in school and and really like take us into that journey or share about the time that your first betrayal happened with the guy you fell in love with in college who cheated on you, and share with us some more about that. Nobody wants to go through that again. However, when you go through it a second time with a logical set of eyes without the drowning in emotional trauma, like the first go around is so painful because you don’t know what’s happening down the path. Now we’re going back to ignoring full well what happened down the path and why we don’t want others to go down the same path because we know the traps we fell into. And we’re trying to save them time and pain.
See, uh yeah, my saying that I say all the time is I want to help people shorten their pain. Yeah.
You know, that’s what we’re doing. That’s exactly what they’re doing through our own work, and it’s our it’s the way that God restores us back to the person he created us to be.
Exactly.
And I find that so powerful, and why it’s so important for us to work through our pain and to get surrounded by community. You you stepped into your church and said, Okay, I’m gonna do this and heal myself first, and then you took over the church, and then that provided another level of healing that would not have been possible had you not taken that initial step.
100%, 100%. And you know, you you touched on something that I want to emphasize with the listeners is that, yeah, the first time you go through this, it’s it’s it’s icky, it’s it’s painful, it hurts, it’s it’s difficult because you’re actually you’re not just remembering it, you’re kind of reliving it. You’re going back and you’re reliving it. So it is gonna be painful, but let me promise you, as you heal, this stuff does not have that same effect on you anymore. And why I know this is because I can share stories today of what happened to me. I could get into a very detailed graphic story where you would feel it, and I could even go back and I can even feel those feelings, but they don’t stay with me anymore, and they don’t have the deep effect anymore. It’s almost like I’m telling someone else a story because I’ve healed enough and I’ve separated myself from that situation and the beliefs that I had in that situation. So now I’m like, no, no, no, no, no, I’m not that person, I’m not that those beliefs. I’m this person, and I can stand in that and that, and like you say, the joy that first time you have that measure of healing and that deep joy. Okay, I’m getting the chills. That there’s nothing better, and that’s what draws me to keep healing. I want that. It’s almost like a dopamine thing. It’s like I’m gonna chase that. I want that, that feels so good, and that I promise you is for every listener. I’m nobody special, you’re nobody special. This is for all of us.
It’s the big aha moment that people think about. It’s like that first time that I saw what self-love meant. That very first time, that first opening hit was understanding the way that God saw me was my definition of self-love. That way of looking at me with no flaws, with no, I would berate myself. I know talk so ugly to myself. I would, if if anyone was harder on themselves, it was me. Yeah, yes. Oh my goodness. And even my husband, my second husband, because like you, I went searching for that person to love me because I had I grew up with in a home of immigrants, Mexican immigrants. My father came to this country in 1967, uh fought in Vietnam, uh, but not fought. He was actually a surgeon in Vietnam, came back and had his own set of trauma from our experience. He also came from a highly abusive household, physical, emotional, mental, all of it, the whole gamut. And he didn’t become a physical abuser like his father, he wasn’t a raging alcoholic like the father. However, the his fear would project in an angry state. And I didn’t understand until I wrote the book because that was the whole purpose of writing the first edition of In Faith I Thrive. In Faith I Thrive is the second edition that released last year in three different voices, and the three different voices that I went through. Fear interesting joy and total surrender. There’s three stages as you level up, you level up out of fear into a space of joy and presence, and often from that space is where God can truly transform you. Yeah, really lead you in into the space of peace and total surrender, and not surrender when things hit the roof. Surrender every single day. Right. And that is a hard space for someone like us who we’re coming from a space of having very bad belief systems, very fear-based belief systems, and not really understanding how to let go because we want to control our circumstances.
Yes, that’s the way we feel safe, is when we’re when we’re controlling our situation. Yeah.
Because that’s what the mind does. When we’re literal, the mind in its protective mechanism will form these patterns of behavior, like the security seeker that I talk a lot about in an In Faith I Thrive. It forms at the moment of trauma and it gets attached to a feeling. And when that feeling shows up in your life, no matter in whatever area of life you’re in, that belief and that pattern of behavior will kick in automatically. Automatically. You won’t even know what’s happening until you sit back and reflect and it shows you. Look, let me show you what happened here. And then when you have that aha moment, you’re like, oh my goodness, that pee, that missing piece that you never knew, not suddenly everything makes sense.
And it’s like, that is like the blinder got removed, and you’re like, oh, oh I get it. That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah.
So I’m totally in agreement with you. And so let’s kind of guide the people listening to this interview on some of the tips that you used in your own healing journey to get you from a space of of this fear-based belief system into presence and joy.
Yeah, it was a lot. So for me, um, the first thing I had to do was let go of control. And I can remember the day that I had to do that, and I was very, very angry, I will admit, because I was controlling trying to control everything in my life because that’s what we do to feel safe. And it was a moment I was sitting in the living room and I realized that I had no. Control over anything really except me. And I was angry. I stood up and I no one was home and I screamed and I screamed and I was yelling at God. I was. I’m like, I don’t get it. And then all of a sudden, there was this peace that came over me, and I realized I don’t have to control everybody. Like there was just this moment of whoo. So that was the that was a big thing for me, right? Because I was trying to control everything. The other thing was getting myself, understanding myself, because I was seeing cycles, I was seeing patterns, I was seeing stuff. I just didn’t know how to stop it. So the first thing for me was the awareness, right? So the awareness of paying attention to how I’m responding to stuff, how people are responding to me, the patterns, like I said. So that became the awareness. So then I’m like, okay, I see the patterns, now how do I break it? And that a lot of that happened through um through trauma therapy, but also learning that I don’t, it was for me, I think it was a form of control because I felt like I had to fix everything or I had to, I had to be a part of everything, I guess, is what it was, because again, it was the control. And it was just learning to go, okay, wait a minute, is this my fight? No, it’s not my fight. I don’t need to, I don’t need to put any energy into that. The other thing was getting my triggers under control. Because when you’re in survival mode, you’re already right there, you’re ready to pop, right? And then if anything goes wrong, boom, it’s all you know, it’s gone. So I needed to get the triggers under control. So I had to learn about my triggers, I had to learn my body and and the response. So the first thing I started paying attention to my body, and that that was hard because you know, you’re shutting this down, you’re shutting this down. So it was paying attention to the thoughts that were going through your mind and paying attention to how my body’s responding, and then you know, over time I was able to put a space between that so that I didn’t respond. Because you know what I got tired of? I got tired of cleaning up the messes that I made when I was triggered. I got real tired of that. So that’s why I wanted to fix it. I didn’t want to hurt people. That was my big thing. I didn’t want to hurt people, and I was hurting people, and so I started working on the triggers. And what I learned a long time ago is when I felt myself getting upset, that’s how I that’s how I recognized the triggers, is I I felt like I was getting upset all of a sudden, like zero to a hundred. I would pause and I would say, I just need a minute, I just need a minute, and if I needed to, I’d step away. So I started working on that, and and you know, I would go figure out when I was alone what’s going on here, and then I would come back with the right response because the response I wanted to come out of my mouth at the time would have been damaging. So I started working on the triggers, which is huge for all of us, right? And then building a relationship with myself was huge because, like you, I was verbally abusive. I was even physically abusive. You know what? I get frustrated with my hair as a teenager, and I had a resin brush, and I remember, and I would hit myself on the head if my hair didn’t because you know why? That’s what my mom used to do. That’s what my mom used to do. I had long, long, long, long hair, and it would get knots, and she would, you know, she couldn’t get the knots out, so she would hit me on the head or brush real hard and hurt me. So I had to learn to build a relationship with myself. I hated myself, and that was a breakthrough for me was slowly starting to like myself. And the first thing I did was I used to always say, I’m so stupid, I’m so stupid, that always came out of my mouth. And I it and it got out it would come out of my mouth without me even thinking about it. So I had to change that. So I’m like, okay, I’m gonna change it. What can I change that to? And this sounds silly, but it worked for me. I’m so blessed. So as soon as that would come out of my mouth, I I I learned to stop and then go, nope, nope, I’m so blessed. I’m so blessed. I’m not gonna say I’m so stupid, I’m gonna say I’m so blessed. That took a while. But it was all these little changes and and learning to treat myself better, setting boundaries, getting myself permission to rest if I need to rest, you know, treating myself like I would. I used to brag about you need to treat yourself like a your best friend. Well, I wasn’t doing that. You know, finding out who I am and what I like, and that it’s okay. It’s okay. Getting rid of the perfectionism, you know, it’s okay to make a mistake. If I was still in that place, I would have never started my podcast because believe me, I didn’t know what I was doing when I started my podcast. And I was willing to look silly.
I was too. I did not, I was I’m a recovering perfectionist, and so when I say that very boldly, because I want people to understand that my perfectionist pattern was really ingrained in me. I was raised by a perfectionist, but I understand now my father, because in the writing of the book, I went back and looked at his history, yes, yeah, his upbringing, yeah, because it helped me understand and have compassion for my father. And there’s a trauma that occurs in chapter one of In Faith I Thrive, and I’m gonna share it here, if I may.
Yeah.
When we were little kids, I was seven, my my little sister Roxanne was two, and we took a trip outside of Mexico City in Popo Catepetl, and it’s uh the dorman volcano that has since like had some eruptions, but it’s a it’s a whole day uh summit climb. And my father had woken us up at 5 30 in the morning in Mexico City, 5 30 a.m. in those winter months, it’s freezing outside. And he said, We’re gonna go see some snow. And we grew up in South Texas, and there is no snow, snow bubble, and so I was excited, and so I got up. I was the oldest. Um, my brother uh was six at the time, and like I said, my baby sister was two, and we have an extended family, really first generation Americans, so everybody else is in Mexico, and so cousins, aunts, I mean you name it, we all went out on this track, but halfway up the climb, my mom and my aunt Bati, who passed away last year, they got dizzy, and so said, Do you know it’s gonna go back down? And realize how Texas has you know, we’re at sea level, and then Mexico City is at a much higher altitude, yeah. And my father having been trained in Vietnam and having all that trauma himself, I mean, this is like disastrous. So I put my hands on my hips and I looked at my dad and I said, You promised we would see snow. And it was really demanding. And so my father being, you know, wanting to kind of give us what he had uh promised, kind of gave in to my seven-year-old whim, and we continued to climb. And so another group continued. We played with the snow till our hands got raw, but then my little sister got cold and she stuck her hands in her pockets, and my father was just a couple of steps down from the from where we were playing, and she started to walk down, she lost her footing, and she rolled, and she hit a rock, and there was blood everywhere. And I remember just running and rushing to see what was you know happening, and in his fear of losing my little sister, he turned to me in a very angry tone and said, If your sister dies, it will be your fault. And that was very traumatic because my mind blocked that at the moment of trauma, would not reappear again until I was 21 years old. So, do you imagine it’s from seven to like, so it’s 14 years later, right? He makes a comment and voila, everything comes out. And I had been in therapy because I had been angry at my father for as long as I could remember, and I couldn’t know, I didn’t understand why. And I couldn’t understand why, when my doubt showed up, my belief of I can’t, I don’t trust myself to make the right decision would kick in. And I couldn’t understand why my security seeker pattern kicked in and I would try to control everybody, most importantly, my siblings, because at that moment of trauma, what a psychiatrist later explained to my parents was you transferred your parental responsibility onto the seven-year-old with one comment, with one trauma. And of course, it was also coupled with the trauma of my sister almost losing her life.
Yeah, yeah.
Because we’re rushing down the summit and we’re rushing to a hospital, I can clearly see my mother screaming, hysterical, and all I could remember was my seven-year-old mind praying to God, begging him to save my little sister’s life. So, with these traumas, one thing that Lisa and I were trying to explain in this interview to those listening is that it’s extremely important to get the right kind of help. Yeah. I I went into therapy with a therapist, not a coach. See, yes, yes, coaches. I want to make that distinction. Coaches do not have the training to go deep into these traumas, and it’s very dangerous for them to do that without because people can go into it’s almost like a hypnotic state that we go into, and it’s very deep emotions, and people can they go back to being seven years old.
Right, right. I’ve seen that I’ve actually seen that, I’ve seen it where they’ve gone back and reverted back, and you’re 100% right.
It’s just like coaches shouldn’t be doing the modalities like EMDR, and those need to be held by licensed therapists, therapists, professional therapists are highly trained in EMDR therapy. And EMDR, for those that don’t know, is a type of therapy. Long ago, they used to do like a visual thing because that’s what I did with my eyes. I would follow her finger and we would recount this thing, and wherever it stopped was where we would start. And she would start asking me questions to try to find what was why there was a blockage. What was the blockage? And when my father made a comment when I was 21 years old, coming out of like we had just gotten um, I can’t remember now. I used to be Catholic. Uh confirmation. My brother and I remember we were out to lunch with our godparents, and my dad jokingly made a comment about that that incident on the mountain. Oh no. I don’t know why he made that. Kind of knew it was the Holy Spirit kind of guiding him. And I remember my I turned angrily towards him. And because I’d been doing India therapy, my mind was already primed. Oh I looked at him and I said, And do you remember what you told me? You told me it would be my fault my sister died. Oh, what did he say? And all of a sudden it clicked like that suddenly came to my awareness, and he was like, he left it off because he was uncomfortable. He was embarrassed. Yeah. And when I went back to therapy, I we went back with that knowledge. My father actually flew to Dallas, Texas, which is where I was living at the time because I was already a college student, and he said, I want to apologize for my mistake. And what I’m crying is my father passed away last year. Had I not been obedient to Christ in writing my book, I would have never healed that part of me. And I would have never forgiven my father, and I would have not been his friend the last four years of his life. I’ve never done that. So what I want to bring hope to people is that when you do this kind of work, and you allow the Holy Spirit really to guide you through this journey, because as Lisa was talking, you heard her say she’s had some angry discussions with God because there will be anger. And God is so used to our anger, so it doesn’t bother him. He knows it’s coming, you know, he can see your thoughts, he knows your emotions, he created you, he knows you very well, better than you know yourself. That’s why he guides us to do this kind of healing against our will, because you heard her say, I really didn’t want to do this six-week thing at the church, but God knew better. And she stayed obedient, and that’s a step that also helps in this journey for you, is for you to stay obedient to the promptings of God. And not just not just when you feel like it, when he’s timing you to do it. There’s a reason for his timing because he’s putting certain pieces into your life that later, when you reflect, make total sense.
At the moment, it doesn’t make sense. I was just gonna say that there’s times that he does stuff and you’re like, that makes absolutely no sense. And then after the fact, you’re like, oh my gosh, it makes complete sense. He’s done that so much in my life. You just have to trust, you really got to listen to your intuition because that’s one thing I started to lose a little bit, and it was kind of my own fault. But I did get a point where I didn’t believe or I didn’t trust my intuition. You’ve got to trust your intuition. That is one thing that God a lot of times gives us. That that comes from him, and it it may not make sense. And for me, what I’ll just I’ll just say to him, okay, this doesn’t make any sense, and I’m just gonna take a step, Lord. And if this is if this is the right direction, you’re gonna confirm it. But if not, then send me in a different direction because this sounds kind of crazy, but okay, I’m gonna do it. And he’s been very faithful, very faithful.
And I love our conversation, although it is coming to an end because we’re having to end this. What is the name of your podcast? How can people reach you? If they want to be a guest on your show, like I feel like I should be a guest on your show. I feel like you should be a guest on my show as well.
I’ll have to send you an invitation.
It would be great for people to get to know you, your books. Tell us how we can reach you and contact you, Lisa.
So I have a website uh for my podcast as well as my workshop, but for the podcast, it’s called Healing and Growing Hand in Hand Podcast. So that’s the name of the website as well.com. And uh I’m on Spotify, I’m on Apple, I’m on YouTube. I do have a YouTube channel as well, so you can watch the videos. Um, I also have an experts explain trauma series on YouTube where I bring on experts that answer one question, and these are deep questions, these are deep, deep questions, and then gives our listeners also um tips. And then I have my workshop, which is Women’s Childhood Abuse Healing Workshop, and the that’s the website as well. And I also have the women’s healing community. So if you go to the uh the women’s childhood abuse healing workshop, and you’ll see a tab there where you can click for the women’s healing community and also some free resources that I offer. Um, so I’m kind of all over the place.
No, you know, you’re you’re where you need to be. Yeah, where God needs you to be and for for his own glory as well. And that’s what we sometimes forget. It’s not for our significance what we’re doing, we’re doing it for him because he gave us the guidance to get out of this traumatic experience that wasn’t really our fault, but it is our responsibility to be able to step in with with confidence and faith, like we have this time. Lisa, I’ve thank you so much for coming on the show and release that reveal purpose. Any last words of encouragement you want to leave us with?
Oh, let me tell the listeners you are you’re not too broken, you’re not too old, it’s not too late. And I have a beautiful life, and you have a beautiful life. And it’s not because we’re special, it’s because we’ve done the work, and that is for everybody. And so I encourage anybody, if you’re just not sure, take that first step, that first baby step to your healing because you deserve it.
Love it, love it. And for the rest of us, you know how I always sign off. Remember, Matthew 5.14, be the light. Have a wonderful week, stay safe. Love y’all. Bye now.
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