Your child’s biggest meltdowns are rarely about the surface problem, and that’s the uncomfortable truth we keep circling back to. When work stress follows us home, screens fill every quiet moment, and we try to parent through consequences alone, we can end up raising kids who look “fine” on paper but feel lost inside their own emotions.
We talk with psychologist Dr. David Marcus about the missing skill behind so much acting out: emotional language. “Use your words” is not magic, it’s coaching. Dr. Marcus breaks down how kids internalize a parent’s stress response below awareness, why that becomes the blueprint they fall back on under pressure, and how a “soothing presence” helps a child get safe emotional distance from intense feelings so they can actually process what happened. We also explore why “attending to” matters more than chasing attention, and how unmet needs can intensify until behavior becomes a loud request for connection.
Then we get practical about self-esteem and child development. Dr. Marcus explains mirroring experiences (the gleam in your eye that becomes a child’s confidence) and merger experiences (doing life alongside a capable adult that becomes competence). We connect those ideas to predictable time, trust, and security at home, plus why punishment often fails when the message you intend isn’t the message your child receives. You’ll walk away with clearer parenting tools for emotional regulation, screen time boundaries, communication, and raising emotionally healthy children.
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Transcript:
If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry and wondering what your true purpose was all about, then this podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham.
Hey Lightbringers, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to Release Out Review Purpose, and today is Dr. David Marcus. I cannot wait to dive into this interview. Mostly personally, for personal reasons. I’m a parent. I have two rambunctious children who keep me on my toes day in and day out. One is 20, about to be 21, so an adult technically, but you know how it is. You never stop being a parent to them. It doesn’t matter how old they get. Be 80, he could be 50, and I’m still gonna tell him I’m still your mother because I’m a Mexican mother, and I will always feel the need to guide my children, even when they become adults. And I have an 11-year-old, very vivacious uh girl who thinks not like an 11-year-old, but like a 21-year-old. So you know how that goes. Because right now we’re in a society where our children are inside tablets, they’re constantly on iPads, phones. The amount of information inside their little brains is so much that as parents right now, we don’t even know how to communicate with our children. And Dr. David Marcus deals with high stress situations like these, stressed out parents like us that are trying to navigate how to communicate, how to raise happy, well-adjusted adults, because that’s what we’re doing, right? We are trying to raise these happy, well-adjusted adults, but we’re not doing a really good job of it because sometimes we are un we’re operating from an unhealed space. We don’t even know it. And the way we speak to our children is the way they receive the information and sometimes receive and start operating from an identity that is not theirs, it’s ours that we are projecting onto them. So without further ado, Dr. David, thank you so much for joining us. I’m released out of real purpose.
Well, thank you for having me, Sylvia. That’s quite a broad topic that we’re talking about. You’re correct. It’s very, very common because in the modern world, the input is multifaceted, and we don’t control it all either. And we don’t have a lot of personal space or time to really attend to our children. You know, uh, we’re in the high-pressure jobs with deadlines. Uh in the old days, you could leave your work at the office, you can’t do that anymore with modern social media and computers and cell phones. And so our children need to be attended to. Now, notice I’m not using the term attention because that connotes negative attention.
All right.
But in order to help our children to first develop an emotional language, you can have the brightest child in the world, and they may not have an emotional language because that comes through the parents and what you do with a young child. All right. That needs to be attended to, and how to do that we can talk about. Actually, what you’re trying to achieve is a common emotional language with your children. What does that mean? Parents make the assumption that what’s angered to them is what’s angered to their children. You know? And they base it on their own experiences. Oh, I went through that when I was a child, and you know, that type of thing. It’s a natural thing to do, but it stops a certain process, which I call emptying out, because you’re talking about yourself now. And your children may use an entirely different language to express that. And what I try to help parents to do, not only parents, but partners, is to find this common emotional language where the words mean the same thing to each of them. In adults who be aboard like affection, companionship, uh you know, uh communication, you know, uh support. That’s a big one, especially in in this day and age where you have the type A personalities who are under so much pressure at their jobs, because they have high pressure jobs, that you know they are so immersed in that, even when they’re home, that they’re not attending to their children. Yes, I’ll get to it, but you know, right, not right now, I’ve got this deadline tomorrow, kind of thing. And meanwhile, the child needs to be attended to for self-esteem reasons, for developing an unemotional language. How are they going to learn how to quote unquote use their words? How many times have parents told their children, don’t hit your brother, use your words, you know. Well, I got news for parents. That’s a skill. And like any skill that needs a coach, them, which means they have to attend to them, and then practice, you know, to get good at it. A lot of parents assume, oh, my child’s really bright and they have good vocabulary, so therefore they just make this silent assumption that, oh yeah, my child has an emotional language. No. I’ll tell you a little anecdote. You know, at the time, I was seeing two brothers, seven and nine, and I just finished seeing them, and I was talking to the mom for a few minutes, and they’re in my waiting room, just right outside the door, just for a couple of minutes, and all of a sudden we hear a scream. So we both get up and we run out to the waiting room, and there’s the nine-year-old, he’s holding his arm like this in tears, and the seven-year-old’s looking like, oh boy, am I in trouble now? So I’m observing this because I’m a psychologist, you know, I’m not, you know, so I’m observing. And mom, you know, turns to the boys and says, What happened? And the nine-year-old picks up his shirt like this, he bit me, and he’s got teeth marks on his arm. I mean, he got bit. Now I felt really bad for the mom. She’s mortified. I mean, here she is in the psychologist’s office, and her children are biting one another. So she turns to the seven-year-old and says, I told you to use your words. He looked at her in all innocence and said, I don’t know how. I said, That’s where we need to go. That’s what we need to do. It’s not an automatic thing.
No, it’s powerful what you’re sharing, uh, Dr.
David, because you’re right. As parents, we must model to our children. They get their cues from us. I mean, when our kids lose their temper, it’s because they have watched us lose our temper in the same way. Like I started to see my daughter, and she was losing her temper. And even my husband mentioned it the other day. He’s like, she’s starting to lose her temper like I lose my temper. And I said, I’m not gonna say I said you so, even I told you so, because that’s the wrong way to react, because he’s actually admitting to it, right? So, what can we do as parents? Is we need to pause, reflect how we gotta model something different, but we also have to accept the fact that we are modeling this too, because I imagine that the parents that you work with sometimes have you ever had like parents that are resistant to this idea, Dr. David?
Well, it’s not that they’re resist. I I have to explain something here, okay? Anybody who comes in to see me about their children care about their children, unless it’s a court-ordered case, and I did a lot of custody work, and so sometimes that’s not the case. You know, but they’re there, even if they’re separated and you know that they don’t get along, they’re both there for their kids. So, you know, there’s a process I’m going to explain to your listening audience, it’s called internalization. Now that can mean a lot of different things, but what I mean is that internalization is basically learning something below your level of awareness. All right. And what I’m referring to here is what one of the things that one of the things that children internalize below their level of awareness is how to react to stress. If they see their parents, you know, get really upset or you know, hit or whatever it might be, that gets in there. This is one of the reasons why parents who were abused as children they will swear up, down and sideways that they would never do to their children what happened to them. But under unanticipated stress, and children are great at hitting us with stress when we’re not expecting to, then they it’s called regression. They regress back to these internalized responses and they’ll hit. They regret it later when they’re not regressed anymore. But this is how things get passed down. One of the concepts in my the book I’ve putting out called Parent Prescription and it’s one of the main concepts, is called the soothing presence. What is a soothing presence? Someone who is okay when we’re not okay. That’s the simplest definition I can give you. When you think about as adults, if you think about who we turn to when we’re upset or have something heavy on our heart, let’s say you know, certain parents, friends, certain family members perhaps. Hopefully your partner in life. Okay. They will listen. They will be okay. And what happens in that situation is you know, when things are in inside of us, they’re they’re intense and they’re uncomfortable. So we want to quote unquote get it off our chest. What is the purpose of that? It’s to get what I call a safe emotional distance. You know the analogy, the forest for the trees. You ever hear that analogy?
No, but you know, I was raised Mexican. Probably right. Well, I don’t if you want to explain it on the podcast, I would really appreciate that.
Okay, okay. Different cultures. It’s just a saying, it’s an adage, you know. It means this when you’re really up to a tree, like you’re right up here, right? The nose is up against the tree. It looks humongous, it looks so big, like wow, there’s nothing I can do about this. Gaining some distance from safe emotional distance in this case, we can see it’s a significant tree, but it’s got boundaries. And there are other trees. But we can’t do that until we get it off our nose. I mean, we have to get this distance. And that’s what a soothing presence can do, right? Um and notice I’m using the term soothing presence rather than soothing person. I have to emphasize this because of exactly what we’re talking about. How can you be a soothing presence, be okay yourself if you got a deadline tomorrow, and you you know, you gotta, you know, work this whole thing out in six months and and show your your your skills, you know what I mean? You know, you’re under the gun. You know, it’s very, very hard to do that. Now this is very important because children, I use the term attended to because I don’t like the word attention, like I said earlier. What do children gain? Okay, I’m gonna get into some self-esteem here because it’s so important. You know, uh this communication what we’re gonna get into further is this is how it helps self-esteem. Self-esteem is based on two different types of experiences. One is called a mirroring experience, and this is basically the little child who makes a finger painting and you know, they want to show their parents, and what do they do? They run to their parents and they hold it up in front of their chest like this and say, Look, mom, look, dad, look what I did. Now the natural response is, gee, that’s wonderful, and you stick it up on the refrigerator, right? Well, what the child is doing, this is the part that’s interesting. They say, Look what I did, and what’s the next thing they do? They look up at your face. You’re a parent, I’m a parent. We know this. It happens so often. What are they looking for? And the term I use is they’re looking for that gleam in your eye. All right, gee, that’s great. Now, multiply that. First day of kindergarten, the first report card, the trophy, you know. Look what I did, you know. This is a lifelong type of thing. And they internalize that gleam in your eye, and now they can smile at themselves. And that’s the basis of we commonly call confidence. Okay. The other experience is called a merger experience, and this is also very common. And if you want the psycho-babble term, if your audience is interested, because I’m supposed to be really educated about this stuff, it’s called you know, merger with the idealized other. Children realize really early on that you’re bigger, better, smarter, can do more stuff than they can. And they want to be able to do that, but they can’t. So the closest they can get to it is to do it with you.
Okay.
This is the little boy who pushes the toy mower when dad’s mowing alone. Helping fix the car. A little girl with the easy bake up and my mom’s you know cooking Thanksgiving dinner. Now, we never outgrow the need for merger and mirror mirroring experiences. The ad adult version of the mirroring experience would be your job evaluation.
Yeah.
We know how sensitive we are about our job evaluation. The merger experience in adulthood is called a mentor. Someone who is there for you, who you respect, they don’t do the work for you, but if they’re pleased with your work, you feel really good about yourself. And that’s where we get our sense of competence. I can do things. Confidence and competence those are the two basic experiences that build and then maintain self-esteem. And this is just one example of why parents need to be able to attend to their children as a soothing presence. How is that going to happen? It starts externally. That gleam in your eye is your gleam as a parent, not theirs. But they take it in over the course of time. Now, this is a good basis for how what the role parents need to play. So I talk to parents about lifestyle. You know, hey, you’re your children need predictable time with you to attend to them. If they don’t have it, this is what happens.
Okay.
And I explained this to parents because it’s very direct. There’s a difference between something that you want and something that you need. You may want uh, oh, I don’t know, a new car. But gee, I can’t afford one right now, so I’ll make the old car last another six months either. Something you want. Something that you need is like air and food and water. Now, can you wait to get that next breath of air until you can afford it? No. In three minutes, it intensifies to the point where that’s all you can think about is getting that next breath of air. Or two days that drink of water. The chill child is not attended to, these needs the need to be attended to increases in intensity. And what do you get? Acting out behavior. Pay attention to me, pay attention to me. See what I’m getting at? And I’ll get more visible, sometimes more obnoxious. And here’s why I hate the term negative attention. Because behavior modification says child does something wrong, give a negative consequence, learn their lesson, don’t do it again. You’re extinguishing the behavior. In fact, if that worked, you know, if that was parenting, parenting was that logical, I’d be unemployed.
I mean, it would be so it’s in line with the nurture heart therapy approach for for kids that suffer from ADHD. This is something that my husband and I are currently taking that level of therapy. And and one of the pillars of it is the empowerment piece. She talks a lot about Anna guides us uh on when you’re when your kids misbehave, how big is your reaction? And we’re like, oh it’s huge because we’re trying to correct the behavior. How about when they do something great? Do you give that same level of passion and energy to it? And my husband’s like, no, I don’t. And I I would say the same thing, no, I don’t. She goes, That’s why she she pushes your buttons because she wants that from you. She wants that engagement with you, and you’re not giving it to her, so she knows that she can push the buttons because she even if it’s negative attention, she’s still getting your attention, right? And I was like, Oh yeah, so now it’s like flipping the switch, like the whole script has been flipped around. And so now like this morning to give a perspective for the ones listening on the other end. She’s sick, she’s homesick today because the whole weekend, because we’re in Austin, Texas, and the energy season is like at its highest gear right now, and she just cannot breathe. She’s been coughing incessantly the whole weekend, and like you know, all of it, the all of the energy is it’s all there. I used to I used to work for Pfizer and I used to sell zertic, so I didn’t know how to detect it from miles away. And and she got behind. So that means that she she should have started taking her zertic at the beginning of the season, and we just got behind. And once you get behind me, it’s really hard to catch up, right? Your body’s like catch trying to play catch up, right? So she’s home and she walked downstairs and I said, Hey, how come how come you didn’t wake me up, mom, to go to school? And I said, Well, your father and I discussed it last night. And because you have a start test on Wednesday, we want to make sure that you are fully energized and rested and well to take that test on Wednesday. So we made the executive decision to keep you home today. You’re gonna rest, but that also means you’re not gonna be on the iPad because you’ve been on the iPad all weekend, um, like isolated in a room since we didn’t know what you had. And but now that we kind of know what you have, you’re gonna be in regular rooms but no more iPad. And you would have thought that she would have hit the roof in normal times, Dr. David, she would have been very upset. But because I explained it to her and I said, Listen, Bib, you know that right now you need to rest, and and you have a lot of things you can do, but your brain needs to rest, it needs to be able to focus on Wednesday, and so drawing, resting, reading your books. She has a whole ton of books I just bought for her. Even watching some TV, you you’re allowed to rest and do that, but no more iPad today. She did not react. But afterwards, what I did tell her in passing, because I don’t want, I don’t, I just want to build that confidence in her as something that I’m actively working on with my therapist. I looked at her, I got her attention, and I said, hey, baby, I just want to say thank you for taking that guidance of no iPad today. I can see that you have an enormous capacity to listen and to uh be in alignment with what’s good for your brain. I know that you know that. I’ve seen you do that very, very well in the past couple of weeks. And I just wanted you to know how much I appreciate that. But I was looking right at her and I was right at her level, and she’s she’s she’s 11. She’s 11.
And she was like that explains it. She looked at me and she was like, Okay.
She didn’t she didn’t put back. I was like blown away.
I’m gonna ask you a question. I’m gonna ask you a question here, okay? I’m not your therapist, but I’m just curious, you know. Before she would just listen and accept it, did she tell you about how much she wanted to be on her iPad?
She that’s all she wants to do. She’s been doing it every day, all day since she got sick.
Did you give her the opportunity to say, hey, I don’t like the fact that you’re taking me off my iPad?
Uh she actually did I give her the opportunity to say anything? Yeah, I did. She was able to she didn’t say anything. She really, she just said, Well, why why is that, mom? And when I explained it to her, like logically, she was just very like, okay.
All right. So you you have you have con you have you you know her perceptions.
Yeah.
She can talk to you.
Oh, yeah.
That’s what I’m hearing.
Okay.
That’s a big advantage. That’s what we’re talking about. But this is what you have to establish, and obviously it sounds like you have, which I give you kudos for, you know what I mean?
Not easy.
If it was easy, I’d be looking for a job, Sylvia. I mean, it’s not easy.
It’s so many failures. I mean, so much shame and guilt, which don’t play.
That’s why I asked how old she was.
Yeah.
Eleven going on 21.
Okay. Well, okay. So um let’s pick it up. You know, um now I’m pointing where we left off. Um, I apologize.
Um the merger is you the merger in the mirror.
Oh, yeah. Which you discussed peau.
Attending to.
Yeah. I was going to explain because I think it’s important to people understand the difference between attending to and attention because of the negative context of attention. Because behavior modification, like I said, you have the negative consequence, the child learns their lesson, and you you extinguish the behavior in those old terms, those old scenario terms. And it doesn’t work. The only reason it doesn’t work is because you’re making a big assumption. The message you’re trying to convey to the child, don’t do it again. It’s the message that they’re receiving. And that is most often not the case. The little child, depending on their perception of the parent from historical experiences with that parent, they just say, My mom’s just being mean again. You know, it’s scary when mom’s mean. It has nothing to do with the behavior anymore, it has to do with how she feels about her mom. Or with teenagers, you know, you tell them, you know, give them a consequence. Well, teenagers, hey, you can’t tell me what to do. You know, they’re going through individuation, and I’ll show you that you know, you can’t do that to me. So the message, don’t do it again, is a big assumption. And it’s often false. All right. This is why you have to be able to communicate with your child to gain access, what I call gaining access to their emotional perceptions, because all of us take every new experience and filter it through our emotional perceptions. We all do that. You know, and so without that kind of ax access, all you can do is react to their behavior. And that’s where, okay, you know, you’re grounded for three days, that doesn’t work because your you know, child resents it and you know I’ll show you. And so they do something, they sneak out, they do whatever. And um so, oh, okay, you didn’t learn your lesson, you’re grounded for six days. Well now you’re just a bigger jerk, you know what I mean? You know, and they uh and meanwhile, uh you’re not communicating anything. The idea is to communicate here here’s here’s the thing. The the idea of parenting a child to grow up to be what we first call resilient is to help them to process their experiences, which means they have to be able to tell you about them. They get that safe emotional distance where they can look at it. Think about what to do and emerge your experience with their parents. What can we do about the fact that you’re being picked up? You gotta hear how it feels to be picked up and the and the history of being picked up. And you know, all these things that you have to have access to because that it that’s what’s uh where the intensity comes from. And you have to relieve the intensity by being a soothing presence. Yes, okay, when they’re not. You see how these things tie tie together? Yes. This is what my book is all about, to tell you the truth, you know.
So remember again, the name of the book.
Um, it’s called I Gotta Look It Up because my aging just changed. So please forgive me. Uh I have it here.
Okay. I I remember going through numerous name changes for mine.
Okay. Parent RX, like parent prescription.
Okay.
A prescription for raising emotionally healthy children.
Okay.
I kind of love that, and I’ll tell you why I love that. Because we’re nearing the end of our time together, but oh my, I have learned so much, and it’s been affirmed to me throughout this interview that the kind of therapy that we’re receiving as parents right now through the nurtured heart approach is spot on. Because it it emphasizes a lot of the the key points you made in the interview of we are raising happy, well-adjusted adults. We are mirroring for them and modeling for them how they’re currently reacting and how they’re behaving. And it’s on us as parents to provide that guide by practicing on each other in front of them. Like the way we talk to our spouses is the way they end up talking to their spouse later. And then we don’t correct that um behavior, we’re just passing on the generational way of being and behaving that we receive from our own parents. And without realizing, right? Because we know that this I’m not a certified life coach, you’re you’re a psychologist. We know how powerful the subconscious mind is. It has no filter, it takes all of it in and it accepts it as truth of the way we’re supposed to be acting, you know, because we don’t know any better. We think this is natural. In fact, it’s not, right? It’s it’s just not natural, and it’s not good to pass it on because we didn’t like how it felt when we were kids. Why are we passing it on? Why are we becoming the parents that we didn’t like?
So the internalized responses that we’ve talked about.
Of course. Of course.
The audience that you know, these children they need to be attended to. And if you can’t do it, change things so you can. Children need predictable time with their parents, they need to be able to predict how parents are going to react because predictability is the basis of both trust and security. You can predict somebody, you trust them.
Yeah, and the thing is security is the number one need of children. We need to they need to feel safe in their home. The the home has to be a safe haven for them. If it becomes a war zone in there, it I mean, don’t look any further. You know, the blame is squarely on the parents for like passing that on. And so now, now not the blame, but the responsibility is on the parents to change. Because see, our rules, they weren’t our fault as kids, but they are our responsibility to fix.
Well, you know, it’s one of the reasons in my many years of practice that I never see children without seeing their parents. Now, it’s a if it’s a case of abuse, then I will see the child, you know, parents. Yes. But because I tell parents, I am not the agent of change here. Seeing your child once a week or every two weeks, whatever it might be, is not going to make the difference. You know, you’re the agent of change. And what I am here to do is tweak your parenting skills. You know, parents don’t come to me first, they come to their relatives, their own parents, oh, their bartender, I mean, you know, anybody until they finally realize it’s not working, so they come to somebody like myself, or like you, you know, like, okay, so you’re at the end of this thing, not that at the beginning. And so I tell parents, I’m we’re just going to tweak your skills. And once, instead of me telling you how your children perceive you and themselves, etc., when you come to me after you know practicing some of these techniques of really listening, you know, you know, being a soothing presence, um, and you’re telling me their perceptions, and you’re helping them through their experiences so that they can learn from them. Oh, by the way, when children learn from their own experiences, you know what we call that? Wisdom.
Yes. Trust the wisdom of change with the subtitle to my first manuscript. Hello. Good for you. You know, so it was like you know.
So, you know, when when you do that, you know, that’s resilience. In there, done not know what to do the next time. And you know what resilience is called in adulthood? If you do this well, stress tolerance. See what I mean? Yeah. And now, you know, the thing that we’re not getting a chance to explain is what gets in the way. Okay, there’s a lot of things that can get in the way of this process. And I’d even have to explain there’s more to the process than what we’re simply saying, just listen to your child. There’s more to it than that.
That’s why you wrote that’s why you that’s why you wrote the book. So the book goes yeah. Through all the things. So we are at the end of the interview. Okay. I do want to give you one last space to give us any words of encouragement to those parents listening and tell us how we can purchase and and get the book, Parent RX.
Well, the book is in process. I’ll get back in touch with you when it’s actually out. Okay. Uh my agent is selling it even as we speak. Okay. So it’s good. You know, she’s very enthused about the book. And um, so about my other podcast host who give me interviews and things like that. Uh they can look at my uh website and they can look at, you know, I’ve done a number of podcasts that are on there, which explains more of some of the things that we didn’t get to, you know, the filled up experience and the emptying out experiences. One of the very key things that we didn’t get to. It’s not just catharsis and listening. There’s a lot more to it than than than that, to help children learn from their experience. Um and the book goes through what parents says, child says, parent says, child says, and I annotated saying, This is what you’re accomplishing. And I get very specific about the verbiage of how to do this, right? Because I really want parents to understand uh what they’re actually doing. And and so they can get look at my website, which is parentrx.org. One word, parent rx. And if they want to get in touch with me, you know, they can get in touch with me at D S M A R C U S. D-S-M-A-R-C-U-S-P-H-D.
Okay.
At parentrx.org.
Okay.
And I encourage them to listen to some of the other podcasts because there’s so much more. These are always limited, you know what I mean? There’s so much more to what we’re actually talking about. How to be a soothing presence is different for a three-year-old and a six-year-old and a seventeen-year-old. That’s one of the things that we didn’t get to, you know. The assumptions we make about our children, of our capacity to share their emotions. There’s child development parts to this that you really need to understand. You know, you don’t expect a four-year-old to say, gee, mom, I’m rather perturbed by what you did. I mean, you know, you know, there’s gotta be a way to approach this, you see. And um the purpose of play, the purpose of silence. You see, there’s things that we’re just not getting to today. But you know, they can’t that’s okay.
That’s okay, and that’s why I’m looking forward to the release of Parent RX, um, because I will likely get it, and because I’m a nerd at heart, and I love to get the actual book so I can take notes as I read um on the sidelines and then go back and rewrite them. Okay. That’s just how I am. Um, I want to thank you, Dr. David, uh, for being on the show today and for the listeners having me. Um release that revealed purpose. Remember Matthew 5.14 to be the light. Be the light like Dr. David has been the light. Step into it with confidence. God gave you a spirit of power, love, and self-discipline. If you have a book inside of you and he’s been prompting you to write it, please do so because there’s something very powerful inside of you that needs to be shared. Look at the powerful interview Dr. David gave us today. I mean, we’re all parents, and if even when we’re not, we actually have a lot of influence over children in our lives. We may have a niece, a nephew, a friend, a daughter of a friend that we take care of all the time, and they look to us uh to to understand how to be, how to be happy, how to be well adjusted, how to have self-regulate. It’s up to us to make those better choices for those little people in our lives. Um, so I want to thank everyone for listening and tuning in, and um just remember to step into your purpose, your divine purpose on purpose. Have a wonderful and safe rest of your day. Love you all. Bye now.
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