What if the life you built isn’t the life you want—and the way through isn’t more hustle, but more trust? We sit down with Dr. Nona Djavid, an immigrant from Iran who did everything “right”: advanced degrees, a thriving practice, marriage, and motherhood. Then, in a quiet moment on a closet floor, she realized strategy had delivered success without fulfillment—and chose a new path anchored in surrender, identity, and ease.
Throughout this conversation, we explore the distinction between forcing outcomes and allowing a vision to unfold. Dr. Nona explains why our bodies become chemically addicted to stress, how “the other shoe will drop,” and why replacing the nervous system loop requires daily repetition of new states, such as joy and gratitude.
She shares her four-step framework for a true leap: writing an unreasonable vision in the present tense, expanding your identity to your signature self, embodying that self in ordinary moments, and taking unreasonable, aligned action.
If this conversation resonated, please send Dr. Nona a note on Instagram (@nonadjavid) for her free 90-minute training and mention this podcast, Release Doubt, Reveal Purpose.
If you’d like a copy of host Sylvia Worsham’s bestselling book, In Faith, I Thrive: Finding Joy Through God’s Masterplan, visit her website at www.sylviaworsham.com and download your free chapter!
Transcript:
SPEAKER_00:
If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry and wondering what your true purpose was all about, then this podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham.
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I’ve still got a lot of fight left.
SPEAKER_03:
Hey Lightbringers, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to Release Out Review of Purpose. And today is Dr. Nona Jeffid. And she is an immigrant from Iran. And when I read her phenomenal introduction, I was blown away. She had her PhD in neurology and chiropractic, had a successful career, and then had a moment, a major turning point that made it all come to light. So without further ado, welcome Dr. Nona on release out reveal purpose.
SPEAKER_02:
Yes, thank you for having me. We were just chatting right before. It seems like so much alignment already. So I’m excited to dive in.
SPEAKER_03:
I’m fairly excited. And I’ll tell you why, because when you said the line that really caught my attention is it’s not about strategy, it’s about surrender that really spoke to me because it’s been a line that’s been resonating with me for the last couple of weeks. I’ve seen it more and more. And so I’m thinking there’s something to this is surrender instead of strategy. So really tell us your story of transformation. I know you have a story of coming to this country and checking off the boxes of what you thought success was all about and then realizing halfway through your journey that nope, that’s not it. So do tell us your story of transformation.
SPEAKER_02:
Yeah, totally. I want to start by saying that I’m no expert in surrender or trust, but what I am is a student of trust. As a matter of fact, uh, if anyone’s watching this on video, I have a tattoo that says trust on my on my arm. Constant reminder to trust and surrender and to lean into the vision for the future. So it didn’t always start out this way. Um, as you brought up, I I was born in Iran. I moved to the United States when I was 16 years old, and I didn’t speak a word of English. And then I jumped into high school and I was then a senior in high school. I skipped a year and now I’m a senior in high school, barely speak a word of English. And um, you know, and and also coming from Iran, my parents, they had uh they sold everything and they brought their entire life savings to the United States, but because of the currency exchange rates, we basically hit poverty levels immediately, as soon as we literally landed in Los Angeles. So there were a lot of complex emotions that had happened at the time, which then I’ll kind of fast forward to the story and bring us back to this point that were pivotal in my story of struggle as well as my story of sort of you know the Phoenix rising, if you would. So I continued that path and I learned English and I went to Berkeley and I got my doctorate degree and I studied neurology and I started a business and I got married and I had my first child and you know checked off literally every single box that society tells you. My parents, the culture, the media, the world, the consciousness tells you these are the things that will make you successful and happy. And so I checked off all of those boxes, and I remember um one day I had a business that was really successful, so I took a call with my team members and uh 13 team members at the time, went over some numbers, like a typical day, put my son to sleep. He was just born, he was a brand new baby at the time. Uh, he’s 10 now, so this is a decade ago just for timeline. And I put him down for a nap and I walked myself into the closet, to the walk-in closet, and I shut the door and I shut the lights, and I sat there against the wall, and I held on to my knees and I started sobbing because I had this I’d built this life and this business and this marriage, and I’d given it all of what I had. I had built it based on strategy of setting I’m gonna set goals, and this is what I’m gonna do next, and this is what I’m gonna do next, and here’s how I’m gonna do it. And I had built it from a place of scarcity and not enoughness, not enoughness. So while this was nearly a seven-figure business, while I was married to a great man, I was completely unhappy, unsatisfied, unfulfilled, broken, alone. And I had this, you know, what I call a God moment, you know, plug in whatever you believe in, but I had a God moment in the closet where I realized what I had been doing was not going to work. I mean, this could really be the end as I’m sitting in the closet, or I thought perhaps this could be a beginning to something. But if it was going to be the beginning to something, I would absolutely have to do something that was different. And I remember uh in in those series of moments uh that I was completely burnt out thinking, well, where what was it that I truly wanted to experience as a little girl before I became a mom, before I had to nurture everybody, before I had to overgive, and before I became a wife, and before I became a doctor or a student, like I mean, before any of those roles were taken, why did I come here? Why did my soul choose to arrive and expand? What did I come here to experience? And uh I remember having a vision that wasn’t the first time that I had the vision, but there was one distinguishing factor. So when I was a little girl, you know, as we all kind of dream about this really magical life, and in my case, I love to travel and adventure, and I love to have an impact in the world that is meaningful. I um wanted to be in love, I wanted to travel with my kids, and I wanted to be present with my children, with my family. None of those did I have in that moment. Um, but this time, and this was a vision I had had before, but this time I made a decision to continue, and this is where surrender plays a role, to continue to say yes to the vision and to continue to surrender to the vision that I had had for you know all of perhaps all of my life, instead of asking, well, who do you think that you are, or that’s not possible, or you’re sitting in the closet, why do you think that you’re going to have this level of life or this level of freedom or this level of impact? So instead of questioning the vision and allowing the noise to get in my head and in the way of the vision, to continue to surrender to the vision, which to me in that moment meant to say yes to the vision. The other difference in this particular area as I moved forward was instead of approaching the vision from a place of strategy, like you know, what how am I gonna do this? What are step one through ten? Instead of approaching it from strategy and approaching it from a place of scarcity and not enoughness, I made a decision to approach it in a state of ease and love and fun and joy and freedom. So I was going to get to my vision without struggle, which is what I had been doing up until that point, was really to surrendering while why we’re all here to experience all the range of the emotions, but having the ability to choose the next uh the next energy, the next frequency.
SPEAKER_03:
I find it interesting because one I had several questions that came up as you were speaking. And first off, what a powerful testimony to visualize you in that closet. I could put myself there and think if I had what she had and experienced that unhappiness, I would totally break down as well. So very relatable. Thank you for sharing that. First off, my question is how easy was it for you to just be and not do?
SPEAKER_02:
Thank you for asking that. I make it a point every time I share the story, and also thank you for validating me because it did take me a long time to share the story, and I find that it’s it’s very healing. I never thought it would bring the healing that it’s brought for me since I started sharing this story or any level of vulnerability. Um and thank you for asking the question. Like, how did you get into the being? Was it difficult to do? How long did it take? So I always make it a point to say it’s not an overnight decision or it’s not an overnight um success. We’re talking, I mean, in the past decade, a divorce sold business, lost half a million dollars, um, revamped and redid the business. You know, I mean, there are so many different things, met the love of my life, traveling the world. So like all of these things have have happened in a spam in a span of uh 10 years of over a decade now. And I think uh the key though was walking out of the closet and not just choosing to surrender and say yes to the vision when I’m inspired or when I’m fired up or when I’m happy, or it was, and this was the challenging part, but really a commitment to choosing surrender and choosing ease and choosing joy in the moments of doubt, in the moments of fear. And I think that was really the key that I had recognized I was going to master myself. I wasn’t going to master the strategy and figure out some external strategy that was gonna get me to the next level. I was more focused on how can I master myself moment by moment. And it took a while, and I’m still working on it.
SPEAKER_03:
I didn’t always work on it until the die. You know, and I call it a graduation of sorts into heaven, because for me I’m very faith-based, and it the faith has really kept me on a different path than my first act. The first act, like you talked so eloquently on it’s based on fear, and my first mastermind is freedom from fear. What does that look like? Because a lot of people, fear is addictive. If you think about it, it has a lot of energy. We know how to handle fear, we’ve lived with it, we lived with the scarcity mindset, we know how to strategize out of there. What I found that most people struggle with is to be in joy, to really understand what joy feels like, and those small moments of joy that come to our life, they’re they’re fleeing. I mean, they’re not the biggest moments, but we tend to miss them because we’re caught up in the checking off the boxes and the doing, because we’re really good at that. I mean, we really have mastered that. The mastery comes, like you said, in the everyday choice to be, to stop your thinking when it when it wants to take you down a rabbit hole of overwhelm and doing and not doing enough. I think it’s it’s an everyday discipline to choose to say no. And in the last two days, it’s interesting that you brought this up because I’ve had to talk to myself instead of listen to myself.
SPEAKER_01:
Sure.
SPEAKER_03:
And I’ll tell myself, so you’re not overwhelmed. You you live a very beautiful life, and you can do this, it’s just one baby step at a time. That’s all it is. And it’s like any other thing that you learn to do, you gotta do it in baby steps, small steps, right? And the more you do it, the more, the more your identity evolves into this person. And I always talk to my daughter about these habits that we are forming at a young age, why we do these things. We don’t do them because we have to. We do them because we are creating the identity of the person that we’re born to be, right? We’re removing these layers that come about because of the modeling we get from our parents and the generational stuff that gets passed down. I came from a Mexican background, and it there’s some belief systems that came from my grandmother that just kept passing down because, well, this is the way it is, and it’s like not really, you know how to choose that. I used to I used to think you have to sacrifice something to have it all. Like you can’t be all these things, and I’m like, well, where did that come from? And that came from all the grandmothers from all the generations ago, because that’s the way their society had built things to be. But that doesn’t mean that we need to follow the same thing, and you’re right, we want to be totally different individuals than we become.
SPEAKER_02:
Absolutely. Yeah, so many gems in what you just shared, uh, brought up so many things in me. One, uh, you’re right, those emotions of fear and stress and overwhelm, they are an addiction. All emotions are addictions. Um, and you know, if I ask you, when was the last time you were stressed out? If you’re listening to this, you might say this morning, an hour ago, right now, you know, last week. But if I say, unless you have a spiritual practice of gratitude or something like that, I go, when was the last time you were grateful? You’re gonna be like, if you have one, that’s mornings, you’re gonna say this morning. But if you don’t have one, you go, I don’t really actively go into and innately move into gratitude, but you know the feeling and the emotion of stressed out and overwhelmed. And so one missing link here, and and I learned this from my background in neurology and medicine, is the neurochemistry of stress, the neurochemistry of overwhelm. Because every time you are stressed out, every time you are tapped into struggle, there is literally neurotransmitters released in your nervous system in your body that are just like a drug. So your body becomes addicted to the stress and truly in a form of a chemical addiction. So you’re addicted to stress, which means even when things are going great, I call it the other shoe is gonna drop syndrome, you’re thinking, when is the next time I’m gonna get my hit of stress? I mean, you’re not thinking that actively or consciously, but these are emotional addictions, which is exactly why if you choose to say yes to the next emotion that you are intentionally picking joy, love, service, abundance, freedom, you know, whatever it is, impact that you want to experience, if you keep choosing that over and over in a form of repetition, now you are replacing those old addictions, old patterns with new addictions. Now, will it ever go away? I don’t believe so. I don’t know one single person, and I work with so many beautiful humans that are happy, and so many beautiful humans that are successful, and so many beautiful humans that are happy and successful and fulfilled. And this this is a never-ending game. You consistently have to choose a different energetic state, or choose a different um frequency, or choose a different addiction, addiction to joy. And um also want to address what you said about pat getting, you know, these things get passed on to us. No baby is ever unless there is actual reasons, you know, through the birth process or something like that. But typically, innately, we are not born with stress and overwhelmed, those are learned behaviors, those are things that our body has taken on because of a trauma or something, or something has been passed on to us. And some of these are belief systems that are passed on. The other part of the equation is ancestral through the DNA. I mean, like my body has lived through what my great-great-great great grandmother has lived to some degree. So this is getting ancestrally passed on to me that I have to overcome. But the great news is we get to hopefully shift the next generation or the next wave of, even if you don’t have kids, the next wave of um people that are coming through. Because the reality is you are born with infinite potential. We have we are literally born with only two fears fear of loud noises and fear of um falling. Not fear of failing, but fear of falling.
SPEAKER_03:
Yeah, and we all have those dreams, right? Those nightmares where we’re falling and we wake up and we’re sweating. I remember, I do remember having that horrible nightmare.
SPEAKER_02:
And you’re right, that really is the only fear that’s the only fear as a baby, because you’re you know, and it’s not really a fear when we’re born, actually. It’s more of a reflex. You go to put the baby down and the baby startles, or there’s a loud noise and the baby startles. But there’s no actual fear, there’s no doubt, there is no stress, there’s no overwhelm when you are born. All of those are learned or picked up behavior that have brought you to this point. Um, so if you’re struggling in your life or if you’re stuck in your life, it’s time to unhook from those and really hook on and surrender into the vision that you may have had for a lifetime or a new vision for the future.
SPEAKER_03:
Yes, it just brings up so much. I’m still like so curious about the tips, like the everyday tips that you can share with the listeners of released out reveal purpose in terms of once you make the decision, hey, I want to do this. We all know that our mind has the ability, like at the initial starts of any change, we’re very excited. But halfway through, the mind kind of kicks in. The what I call the ego identity, which is the past programming, the modeling that can come into play, will kick in and say, no, you can’t do this, and those people quit. So, can you give us some tips on how to push past that ego identity?
SPEAKER_02:
Yeah, absolutely. So, and this works because it utilizes the nervous system, literal reprogramming of the nervous system. I have a four-step um framework that I teach. I I we won’t have time to like expand on all of it, but I’ll just briefly go over the four steps and I’ll tell you what is my non-negotiable that has changed my life over and over and over again, both professionally and in my personal life, and this is what I teach. And then if anyone’s interested, I’m happy to like send an extended version of this. But the very first step in the process, you’ve got to have an unreasonable vision. You’ve got to kind of tap in, get childlike, figure out what were the things that you wanted or what are the things that you do want. It doesn’t have to come from your childhood, but it’s got to be childlike. You know, I want a unicorn, I don’t know, I want a farmhouse, I want a beach house, I want to have this level of impact, I want to write a book, I want to speak all over the world. Whatever that unreasonable vision is, you’ve got to write that down. Write it down in present tense, add in all the emotions, put in the visceral feelings of experiencing that as if it’s already happened, as if it’s happening right now, you’re living that life. That is the foundation of everything. There’s so many aspects that go into this that gets your nervous system to feel safe in that. But I’ll go over the couple of other steps. The step two, these are the steps to quantum leap, if you would. So, in step two, and we’ve kind of already talked about this a bit, is you have to expand your identity. All right, you have to expand your identity. What this means is the version of me who I just wrote out in the first step, right? Living this life and has this kind of relationship and has this kind of impact, that version of me who is she? Because it’s clearly not me. Now, I want to be very clear, even though this step is expanded identity, what it truly is is taking you back to who you innately were before the fear popped in, before the identity stuff came in, before you were told who you you need to become. So this is really going back to the core of your unlimited potential. So in step two, you’re using the left part of the brain to ride out who is the version of you, what are the traits, what are the habits, what are the personality things of the this version of you that’s living that life you described in step one? Step three, embodiment of that particular identity. So I could show up to this Zoom, uh, to this podcast, to this episode, I could show up to my emails, I could show up to my clients, I should show up to my children or to my husband. But who am I gonna show up as? Am I gonna show up as the version of me now that is limited, or will I show up as the version of I call her this the signature self? Do I show up as my signature self? And what does that feel in my body? This is where you engage the right side of the brain and the limbic system. So that’s step three. And then in step four, you the step four is called taking unreasonable action. Unreasonable action. These are the kinds of actions that the this current version of you would not be taking. These are the kinds of actions because this current version of you would take the actions that bring about the same things you have been doing, right? Maybe 10% improvement, incremental growth, right? But what are the actions that the next version, the signature self version of you, would be taking? So you’ve got to look at what those unreasonable actions would be and take those. Now, that could be overwhelming, right? Four steps. What do you want me to do with this? And this is a whole retreat, and you’re right, it is. This is I break this down in retreats and workshops and things like that, and we literally walk people through this. But here’s the number one tip and the non-negotiable in my life, because I’ve seen at work, is uh to start with the vision and to read and feel the vision in your mind’s eye as if it’s already happened. Now, I’m gonna tell you why this is important when your body and your nervous system will only experience what it has experienced in the past. So if you’ve been experiencing trauma, stress, overwhelmed, not enoughness, scarcity around money, whether yourself, your family members, or that’s what you’ve been around, that’s exactly what you’re gonna experience. This is just pure facts. Now, the only way around it is if you give your body and your nervous system something different to experience. And by reading the vision and feeling the vision and giving that to your nervous system, you’re actually making that next level life safe for your nervous system to experience. And in in this process, you if your dream vision is really authentic, it’s really you’ve listened to your heart, and this is the seed that has been planted by God in your heart or universe or whatever you believe in, then you’re surrendering to the desire. You’re saying, This is gotta be mine, if this is what I’ve been wanting, or this is what I my heart wants to experience, it’s got to be mine. And if you believe that, that comes with the how. It’s packaged up in the how. If you can just let go and surrender to the vision, and it makes it safe for your nervous system to go, I can, it’s okay for me to have this beautiful, joyful, easy, impactful life.
SPEAKER_03:
I’m in total agreement with you. A lot of what was coming up for me, uh, for those that know, and you may not know, but I wrote a book in Faith I Thrive, and it was published last year, but the first version of it was published in 2021. And what you’re describing is basically the cycle of transformation that I kind of guide people through because we use the power, it sounds like the power of the imagination, which is very powerful. The mind does not know the difference between what you’ve already lived through and what you’re imagining. So it could it kind of takes it as truth. Am I good or not good on that? Is that realistic? And what I have found that right at the point of change, which is where most of us want to shift gears and move in the direction of our soul, the soul identity and the ego identity are constantly battling each other out. That’s the mind and the spirit kind of battling it out. And what really makes the difference is the desire that you feel on the inside that is gearing you to move in the direction of your soul and where the soul is guiding you to. And that’s the soul identity in my book, is the identity that you were created to be before the trauma, before the modeling, before all of this, all these layers kind of clouded your view. But we start to move through life and we we kind of forget about that soul identity until something major happens. And then I always tell people it changes the opportunity that God is giving you to shift your lens to the person he created you to be. And it he starts to guide you into your own light, which is where joy resides in the present moment. It’s not in the future, it’s not in the past, like some of us are constantly living in and stressing about, but rather in the present moment. And that’s where I’m thinking, my goodness, there’s so much alignment here. Because you’re right, you gotta you gotta adopt that identity. And when you do that, it all of it starts to flow. It’s not hard anymore. The the hard part is when the mind kicks in and tries to stop you from from stepping into that vision, because it’s that it’s that subliminal, those subliminal messages that you constantly receive that you cannot do this unless you have all these other things. And when we see that, we’re like, ah, that’s not who we are at all. And that that requires a lot of energy and a lot of of pushing past uh versus the other side where you just surrender, you don’t strategize, you surrender to it. Yes, interesting. The soul identity is a full surrender, and it’s a daily surrender. I think most people think surrender is when things are really going bad in your life, and then you’re surrendering to you know the higher power. But the true joy in life, I have found, and and the book kind of guides you there too, is an everyday surrender. It’s an everyday surrender, it’s choosing to surrender to your true identity and stepping in there without apologies to anyone, especially to yourself.
SPEAKER_02:
Yeah, absolutely. What a what a beautiful way to describe it. And um I think that what you were describing when the conflict arises between soul identity and your ego, I call that range of time fear fence. So you’re going at your vision, you’re going, you know, you’re walking in. In faith, and you’re walking in surrender, and then here, boom, a fear offense, which is all the doubt and all the um ego and all the old patterns will pop up, and uh you know, and then to get through the fear offense to get to the other side requires the surrender. I love how this has become the theme of this conversation. I don’t I wasn’t planning on it, but I guess this is what everybody needed to hear. And I want to say that surrender is an active intentional participation of moment by moment. So surrender, you know, I think verbiage, especially in English language, is like we say surrender could mean so many things. It could mean you sit on the couch, put your feet up, it could also mean you’re in the mountains and you’re meditating, you know, and it could be uh the range in between. But one thing is for sure is when we’re talking about surrender, at least I know you this will align with you probably too, and you can disagree. Uh, but for me, surrender is an act of participation of letting go of the desire, and this is this might be a little bit complex, but letting go of the desire, but surrendering to the fact that the desire is is must be mine. Like it is mine. This is this is God’s seed planted or the universe is planted. I’m surrendering to this and letting go of the desire of it. Because if I’m in the desire of it, then I’m gonna be in the frequency of lack. If I constantly want this next thing that’s on the other side of fear fence, then I’m actually in the frequency of not having that thing. But if I’m in the frequency of surrender in that vision, that this vision’s gotta be mine, it must be mine if it’s in my heart. And if I continuously surrender to it, I no longer am in the frequency of desire, which means that next level thing is here right now, it’s unfolding as we speak. I’m no longer in the way.
SPEAKER_03:
Yes, for me, desire in the book was something that God placed in my heart as the next step in that change. So for me, it was because desire means from the father. And so I looked at desire a little bit differently in the book, but um, it was like to give an example. In one of my chapters, I talked about being totally heartbroken out in college from a broken engagement and flying across the ocean into France, and this was a very big step for someone that’s already she’s young, she is flying completely away from her safety zone and coming into a foreign country and and is heartbroken at the same time. And I look back at that young girl, my goodness, I was so I’m really proud of her because God had placed the desire in her heart to be fluent in French and to actually get involved, like to live in France and to immerse herself in that culture. And regardless of what had happened, the circumstances, he places this desire. And you know, halfway into the journey, I have a moment where my ego kind of comes into play. Because when you’re a foreign student, you know you’re gonna make mistakes in the language. I mean, you’re gonna really mess up, and not really messed up. Like I basically said I was pregnant like a cow instead of like fool in the middle of like dinner. It was really funny, and but you know, when you make that first mistake, you want to just crawl into a corner and die. But um but the next day I actually pulled myself out of there and said, no, no, no, God has put this desire in your heart. Yeah, you’re gonna follow this through. It’s not gonna be easy, but it’s gonna be so fun, and you’re just gonna you’re just gonna own it. And so I just went and I observed the French for a while, and I just noticed how they would speak to each other and and how they would draw us, and I just started to become that identity. It was really interesting. Um, and the more I did it, the easier it flowed, like I was able to step into that soul identity. And by the end of the year, I was full in French and and was flying back to the United States. But so that’s how I use desire to kind of bring it back to the conversation. But I understand what you mean because when when the want can be from external factors, as I think we were going with this, versus the intuition that is inward, right? The the part where God is guiding us, and that voice that does not shout at us, actually, and that’s why it’s so important for us to tune that noise level down so we can actually hear that voice because it’s very low, it’s on a lower frequency that most people don’t really pay attention to because it’s just too noisy in our heads. So we totally understand what you meant by it.
SPEAKER_02:
So I could follow we’re we’re on the same page. You had the desire, you you understood the desire that you felt the desire that was in your heart, and you surrendered to it. You didn’t push to make anything happen. You didn’t you weren’t in lack, you just followed and you surrendered. That’s the difference. That’s the difference between having a desire and surrendering to the desire because it’s been planted, or I have this desire to take my business to the next level and then I’m gonna push and make the things happen. Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_03:
So up here, that that desire is up in the head, the other desires in the heart space, and there’s a huge difference between the two. When it’s here, it’s being, when it’s here, it’s doing, and that’s how I see the difference between the two desires. So I’m total alignment with you. And let’s dive a little bit deeper into intuition because I think this is a harder topic than most people realize. Guide us a little bit on that aspect from your perspective and how you guide your clients.
SPEAKER_02:
When it comes down to intuition, I think to be completely honest with you, I think for most people is creating space. It’s creating space for intuit to learn how to listen to intuition without the push. So what I mean by that is most everybody just runs through the day, does the things, you know, and even if you have a spiritual practice of prayer, meditation, visualization, affirmations, anything like that, um, you’re not that’s not space for intuition. Space for intuition and the practice of intuition shows up when you’re sitting at a restaurant before you order to pause and go internal and go, what do I actually what would I actually want to experience in this moment? What does my soul, what does my energetics, what does my body want to experience in this moment? It’s a process of going from the unconscious into the conscious. And we do not create enough space for intuition, which basically means our entire life for most people is ran by unconscious old patterns of just do the thing that has always been done, order the same food, drink the same water, you know, have the same kind of coffee. And if you’re not creating space for intuition, you’re not developing your intuition. That there’s too much noise out there for you to actually listen in to see what is real in that moment. And again, this from a practical perspective, I used to do this, but but I’ll kind of explain. So practically, you could go, okay, I’m gonna space, I’m gonna create space for intuition, I’m gonna sit down for 10 minutes and really tap in and see what’s in my heart, which is great. That’s a great practice. But how is that playing out in your day-to-day activities before you sit down and answer the emails, before you pay your bills, before you sit down and play Legos with your children, before you go on a date with your husband? Are you sitting down and creating space in the daily life, in the chaos and the stresses of life? Are you creating space, um, even if it’s in a moment or in a breath, for intuition? So I believe that that’s the spiritual practice. It’s not so much the hour of whatever we do in the morning. It’s like, what are you doing right now when you got to get the kids ready and out to school and it’s summer camp and you know all this chaos is going on? That’s where it really matters, the practice.
SPEAKER_03:
It does. And it matters the more you do it, the more you become it. It’s so natural to you. It’s not as like a to-do thing anymore. It’s like it’s who you are. Um, I’ve been shifting as I move. I did a lot of gratitude journaling years and years ago, and now I I feel the need to do it again because I feel like I’ve moved away from it, but it’s something that’s calling to me in my soul to do. And it’s not this big to do thing, it’s just in the moment, if I see something beautiful, I’m grateful for it. And it and it just shifts my whole being around. Like it just does. The prayer and the meditation, it’s important, and for some people it works to do it at the same time every day. For me, it’s my first coffee chat of the morning with with God. I just sit down, I have my cup of coffee, and I just chat with him and I pray and I read scripture and I do the things that my soul is guiding me to do in that preparation for the day ahead, because the day ahead is something that God guides us into. I know in the mornings I always ask him, How am I to show up for you? Guide me, guide me, let me know what I am to do, and and give me, give me clues along the way. And I find that when I do that, he does speak to me through people, through messengers, that he spoke to me through you this morning as I was reading, and I thought, okay, that’s him, and I know it’s him, and so I know the topic of our conversation today, because there’s someone that is going to listen to this podcast episode. Of course, that’s gonna say they’re speaking directly to me, and this means something to me in this moment because it’s what God needs them to hear to get them out of this darker chapter, out of that closet, like he described, in my case, out of that hospital room. How am I gonna get out of here? Some people look at it and think it’s so overwhelming to get out, but the truth is it’s it’s all in your head, it’s all in your mind. And when you stop listening to those thoughts and start speaking into that vision, that beautiful vision that you create, like you talked about, the more you do that, the more you become that person, and the easier your life will flow from that point on. And so I’m I just find it’s it’s so it’s so amazing how he sent you to me in these in this in today of all days and this week of all weeks. And so I always know there’s always a timing to these things. Um, any last-minute tips that you want to share with the audience, Nona, and how can people reach you too? If they want to work with you?
SPEAKER_02:
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Um, thank you so much. I’m so um honored that I that it it had an impact on you and it was uh hopefully it is something that people needed to hear. I think the best way that people can connect with me, I love a personal connect. So if this conversation resonated with you, send me a message on uh Instagram. That’s typically where I’m at, but really anywhere, LinkedIn, Facebook, anything, but but Instagram. Let me know that you heard this conversation with Sylvia, and uh I’m happy again to give you more resources. I have a 90-minute training where I break down the four steps of a quantum leap and how to write out your vision and how to go about it. Just shoot me a message and say, hey, I heard you on uh Sylvia, and uh I will be happy to send over that training for you.
SPEAKER_03:
Thank you so much, uh Nona. And for the listeners of Release Doubt, Reveal Purpose, remember Matthew 514.
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Even liked. Have a wonderful week. Stay safe, love y’all. Bye now.
SPEAKER_00:
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