If you’ve ever felt trapped by fear, doubt, or a label you can’t outrun, this conversation hits where it counts.
I’m joined by Ken Cox, an author, coach, and comedian whose path to sobriety starts in extreme hardship and ends in a practical framework for rebuilding identity with intention.
We talk about what happens when alcohol stops being “something you do” and becomes who you think you are. Ken shares how alcohol-related liver disease forced a decision, why white-knuckling through triggers can still feel like losing, and how boxing became a healthier outlet that eventually turned into coaching kids on confidence and core values.
From there, we dig into identity-based behavior change, including his three-part method from Loading Identity: the Super Why that actually drives change, the Armor you need to execute, and the War mindset that helps you follow through when life tests you.
We also get honest about recovery culture, the risk of spiraling when identity gets stripped by job loss or life events, and why daily reflection, mindfulness, and self-talk matter more than motivational hype. Along the way, we touch spirituality, balance with technology and AI, and the bigger purpose of collaboration over competition. Ken also shares where to find his work, including Loading Identity, available for free download until August 8th at loadingidentity.com.
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To connect with or purchase Ken’s products visit his website at: kencox.com or to download his latest book for free head to: loadingidentity.com
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Transcript:
If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry and wondering what your true purpose was all about, then this podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham.
Hey my bringers, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to release. He is going to use humor talking about sobriety, if you can believe that. But I love that because you know when we’re in dark chapters, we don’t need any more darkness. We really don’t. We do that alone for ourselves. Very well. We’re really big masters on that. And when you encounter people that can use a little humor to shed some light into these dark chapters, I think that’s a very good way to go. So without further ado, Ken, thank you so much for joining us on Released Out Review of Purpose.
Hi Sylvia, thank you so much for having me today.
It’s a pleasure to have you. And I loved what I read on PubMatch. And when your assistant reached out to me, I thought, you know what? Humor is a good way to be. I’m not humorous in the way most people are humorous. I I have a wicked sense of humor, but I’m very serious. And so I I I’ll share this on the show. I’m serious enough for both of us. So I really want you to use your humor when you do talk about your amazing story of transformation, how you landed in this spot, because we now know you’re an author as well, and we’re gonna get into it, all of it, but do take us back to that dark space if you can.
Oh boy, the dark space. Um so I’ll just I’ll just start from the beginning and kind of give you a wrap-up of where I’m at. Um I started drinking, I mean, I was born homeless. Kenny Schneider was adopted at the age of 13, was state ward from seven to eighteen. Um, in and out. I’ve always had my biological mother, but there’s always been problems. Um I’ve been drinking since the age of three. My first AA meeting was at the age of 13, that was court-ordered. Um, run through the entrepreneurs in my neighborhood, the small business owners, kind of put me under their wing and um gave me a path that that was um something that I could attain. That’s where I got into business. Um, you know, fast forward through life in 1999, 2000, I left the entertainment industry and went into IT, entrepreneurship, web hosting companies, building data centers and stuff like that, where uh hustle culture and happy hours were rewarded in magnificent financial ways, right? The guy that could take the business party from the happy hour till morning generally got the deals and I had that ability. Um when I was 39 years old, I got liver disease, uh alcohol related liver disease. And the doctor told me um, you know, you got two years at this rate. If you keep drinking the way you’re going, your liver’s gonna go. You’re at my my counts are like floating between 800 and 950, a thousand is cirrhosis and not recoverable, right? So uh that led me into years of what they call dry drunk. Um just trying to quit, being mad about it. Alcoholism was my identity. Like that’s who I was. I was, you know, I that I was the guy that could take you out and do it, whatever. Um, so I identified as that. It was, you know, alcohol was my best friend since childhood. It it helped me through almost everything in my life. Um but I I had to quit, and it was obvious that I had to quit or I was gonna die. Um in that moment I found that that time frame, I found boxing as an outlet. And you know, fast forward a couple years from there, I I’m now coaching kids, and I’ve got to go take a ton of coaching courses. I gotta get I I have to get Neuroflow coach certified, I’ve got to get USA boxing certified, I’ve got to get all these coaching certificates. And really quickly, I started getting doctors sending kids to me that had um confidence issues and stuff like that. What I what I realized I was doing with them is I was changing their identity, who they saw themselves as. I was building gladiators, I was giving them core values, I was you know going through the hierarchy of values, and I’d been through every addiction program there is. Right? And one day I was uh coming home from Podfest and I was driving to the state of Georgia and I wasn’t paying attention and I got arrested. I was going too fast, and I had my medical cannabis with me, um, and I was out of state, and I had something called super speeder tickets, um, which is a big deal. So, anyway, as I was getting out of jail, I was like, screw this, I deserve a beer. I bought a couple beers, and up until this moment in my life, I had been struggling with alcoholism. I’d been struggling with not drinking, right? I’d bare knuckle it, I couldn’t go into gas stations, I couldn’t go eat dinner anywhere with friends, um and I and it clicked that I had been identifying as an alcoholic the entire time. And if I took the practices that I took these kids through, and I can convert an eighth grader from somebody that’s getting picked on in class to standing in a ring as a gladiator, giving everything they have, and I can change them by by changing how they identify, then that was the trick. So re wrote Reclaimed Sobriety, best seller, huge hit, love the book. Um, fast forward a couple of years, I want to write another book, and I’m like, how can I prove this concept that accepting an identity, coming up with the hierarchy values for that identity, and executing on that identity will change your life? And I said, and last year, I said, Well, let’s try comedy. I’ve never done comedy in my life. Never. Let’s let’s try it. And uh within five months, you know, I produced multiple one-hour shows, I’ve done you know, uh stages all across the country. Um, even you know, next month I’m gonna do some shows in Australia. Um so the process is provable, and then I documented that entire process on my blog, coxout.com, so somebody can see like literally from the very first stage, the moment that you know, um you know, talking about going on stage with dirty socks, right? Everything, uh, I’ve lifted the blanket and walked through the whole process with everybody, and then that’s the new book loading identity, um, which shows the entire process of you know, for if I want to change who what I’m acting as, um, how can I do that in a in a very fast way?
So give us some pointers because at least one to three pointers from the book to kind of get an idea of what you’re talking about. Um and then, of course, not giving us all of it because we want to buy the book.
Yeah, so there’s three basic categories in the book, right? There’s the super why. Everybody says super why, you know, you gotta know your why you’re doing stuff. So I go through a very specific, I call it the super why. Uh why you’re doing something doesn’t matter that much. Like the trivial why, oh, I want to make more money, you know, those kinds of things. Like uh I want my daughter to look up to me again. Like that’s a super why, right? Um, I need my son to be financially stable and not be institutionalized. That would be a super why. And the first thing we do in super why is we strip our current identity. Like, who are we now? Like, how do we get down to the core of who we are? So, super why was the first step. The second section is all about armor. What kind of armor does this character wear? What do they need? What tools does this character need to go out and execute? And then the third step is war. Going out and acting like this is my war, this is what I’m gonna win this challenge, and nothing’s gonna stand in my way. Those three, those three components uh walk through the book. Now, when I finished loading identity, I found two significant problems with the book. Uh, the book is designed as a hack. I want to be X, Y, or Z. How do I get there as fast as possible? So there’s two companion books, one called Stripping Identity. Um, what people need to realize, and I think this is super important right now on our planet, when your identity gets stripped, either if you do it yourself, or your boss says, You’re not a plumber anymore, you’re not an accountant anymore, you’re not a lawyer anymore, and that’s who you identify as, somebody else stripped your identity. That can be dangerous. It can put you into spirals, it can do all kinds of things. So I’ve been through like identity death ceremonies, and I’ve got shamans and you know, all this stuff to help me do it. So, stripping your identity is not killing it, it’s getting to the core of yourself and putting it to the side and understanding that. And then the last book is another companion book. They’re like 30 pages, it’s called Integrating Identity. If I adopt these new identities, how do I live a life and let people understand who I am as a person and not this uh you know multiple personality kind of play?
Because when we all have them though. We all have them, we have different identities as our trauma. Like when we have trauma, an identity forms from that trauma. There is a belief that forms at the moment of trauma, and there’s patterns of behavior that get attached to a feeling and habits start, right? And the more you do it, the more you solidify that identity. And so it’s it’s identifying what belief is at the root that is promoting all of this identity and these results that you’re seeing in life, right? And so it’s it’s it’s stripping that away. But you’re right, the it can kick you into a spiral mode when, for example, you lose your identity, especially like I’ll I’ll share a bit of me. There’s I was a high achiever, that’s why I work with high achievers now. Work with high achievers that are seeking their higher calling, their divine purpose, because that’s not who they are, that’s just who they programmed themselves to be. Right. Yeah, based on what happened to them, right? So you had you were born homeless. That’s something that happened to you. It’s not like you went and sought that out, it happened to you, right? And when that happens to you, the mind wants to protect you, it wants to build an armor around and to protect you. And so, what kind of armor you are you wearing right now? And what armor do you need to wear in order to combat, like go to war with that identity? And you know what? Some of these things are biblical concepts, these are not new concepts, these things have been around for a long time. There are two identities. You have the ego identity, that’s the sinful identity. This is where we’re at, right here. You know, humanity is right there, and then you have spirit-led identity. That’s your higher self, that’s your higher consciousness, and that’s who we’re wanting to be, more like, versus what happened to us, right? And this is something I I’ve actually had to sit down with my 20-year-old kid, who, by the way, is into mixed martial arts. As we were talking, I was like, I was picturing my boy, right? And we just got back from a Christian conference over the weekend, and one of the guys that was there was talking about how he really didn’t like himself. Like one of the main, main speakers who is now like Ed My Led, who has done he’s the number one podcast in the world right now. And there’s a reason for that. The guy has been through it all. He also came from an abusive background, like the father was an abusive alcoholic, so that his identity was such that he learned to read the room really fast when that father came home drunk because he had to, because he was the the the little boy having to protect the mom and the sisters from getting beat up, you know, things like that. So I’m in total agreement with you. There’s an identity piece here that when you start to strip it away, when you actually start to to dispel the lie that it’s telling you that you who you are, when you actually in your present moment cannot come up with evidence that proves that identity is true, it starts to lose its power over you. And then you then you can create this beautiful identity. So tell us more about how to create that new identity within us.
Okay, yeah. So um, you know, AA I think is a great program for accepting that you have a problem. I think it’s a crime against humanity to make people stand up every day or suggest that people stand up every day and identify as an alcoholic. Alcoholics relapse, that’s what they do. It’s giving yourself permission. So um, you know, stripping that that neck that identity that you don’t want anymore is very, very important. Um doesn’t mean you have to kill it, just means you set it to the side, right? And you adopt this new one. I think hierarchy of values is the number one, and it’s in every single program except for Recovery Dharma, right? Um coming up with my hierarchy of values. And I don’t think you can really come up with your hierarchy of values until you strip the existing identities, understand who you are, understand what those things are. So coming up with what that is. Now, once you come up with your hierarchy of values, I’ve seen, you know, um, I’ve been in group for 40 years almost. All right. So most people do their hierarchy of values, throw it away. Um, what we do with our teams is well, first thing we do every practice is we check in with each other, you know, how our mind and body are feeling today. The second thing we do is we read our core values out loud and proud, and we talk about them, right? Why are these our values? And these are values like don’t talk about it, be about it, um, don’t make excuses, make it happen. Imagine where you want to be in life, believe that you can get there. Right? We have 13 core values that we that we read out loud, every single practice, and we talk about them and why they’re important. And what I found out, what I realized through that practice is that once you’ve embodied a core practice or core core uh identity or core value, going against that core value is painful.
It doesn’t feel good.
You can you instantly know it. So um when you’re not doing that, you don’t have your hierarchy of values, and you’re kind of just living life, these triggers can happen to you, and they’re you’re much more susceptible to that. But when you have a daily practice of acknowledging my mind and body and and reciting my core values, not doing the work that day is painful. You’ll be sit, you’ll you’ll be sitting there and you’ll just be smiling like, I gotta get this done. This is part of who I am now. And once you get there, a human’s unstoppable. No human has any capability greater than the next. Right? We’re all made from the same biology and the same electricity, right? We’re all given the this beautiful life from our mother earth, and we get to experience it as a privilege.
Um We all have like this amazing capacity. We don’t tap into it though. We don’t, because we’re this is the problem that I see in all honesty, is that people don’t reflect enough at the end of their day. They’re still stuck with what the outside world tells them.
And my current philosophy on this problem with the current philosophy. My current philosophy is that in the 1600s or whatever, Aristotle started coining these five senses for humanity smell, taste, hearing, you know, the five senses that we’re all used to. Rockefeller doubled down on those in the school system and he took away all of these other senses that humans have, right? And I’ve diagnosed, like I’ve come up with like 40 different senses that humans have. And I’ve talked to other people and say, no, humans have hundreds of senses, right? I’ve run data centers and systems for my entire adult life. I know what large systems, how they operate. And I also know that if you have inputs in the large systems that are ignored, that they crash. And I feel like our world has been told all this spirituality around you, and love isn’t really a feeling, it’s it’s an emotion, right? And change it in different different ways, right? Uh it’s not a you don’t have a sense of love, it’s just this feeling that you have. But I have a sense of love for other people, right? That’s one of my senses. And if I ignore it, I crash. And I think this entire society has crashed. We’ve lost our spirituality. We’ve we’re leading from fear and ego, and we’re not leading from spirituality and love.
And we are and we are asking chat GPT to tell us how to think. Hello? No, no, no. We don’t. This is the problem, too. Like just how to think? It it tells you what to think. Like they’ll ask, how should I think about this? Chat GPT, and the machine is telling you how to think. I’m sorry. We have the capacity to think, we have an immense capacity to do it ourselves. Why are we looking to the machine to tell us what to think?
I think the machines are uh a huge help.
It can be, and I don’t sometimes it stifles. I I’m a I think there’s a balance to things. Like, I don’t view one extreme or the other. I just don’t. And I used to be, and it like I went from one extreme to the other, and then biblically speaking, he didn’t like extremes. It’s like, no, no, no. What’s the center? Go back to center. Everything has a balance to it, right? It’s not one or the other, it’s balanced.
Yeah, you never get a strike by living in the gutter.
No, no. Uh, and and extremes have actually hurt us as a human race. Like in various social aspects, it has absolutely hurt us. Instead of working together, we’re now working against each other, and that’s ridiculous. Because you can are very divinely skilled in a way that I’m not, and that’s okay. And I’m divinely skilled in a different way that compliments you. And together, when we work together, we’re unstoppable. But people have got to get out of each other’s ways and stop competing with each other because we’re not meant to compete with each other, we’re meant to collaborate with each other because we all have a role to play in a big plan. You know, and we’re here for a very limited time. And then what the next chapter is really what matters in a lot of ways, but we think that this chapter is the only chapter that matters, and it’s there’s more to this life than that. You know, I just I’m a very different, I’ve I’ve lived a very different journey. And when you’re close to death, when you face death the way I did in Easter weekend in 2012, it really will change your perspective. When you are facing six doctors in a room and they’re saying, We don’t think you’re gonna survive the night, there’s not much room there to, you know, further doubt. Like at that point, the only choice you have is to surrender, you know, and I surrendered completely to my to the Lord. I was like, obviously, the experts, the scientific experts, do not believe I’m gonna survive. So I’m gonna submit to you, and you’re the higher power, and I’m just gonna ask for my second chance. And he gave it to me on Easter Sunday morning, you know, and when you get a second chance, you realize that you have a very powerful reason why you stayed behind, right? And it’s in I think the the journey of life is is identifying what that purpose is and then doing it on purpose, like to help others. Like you’re doing it with the kids, you’re doing it with people that identify as alcoholics, you know, and you’re saying, no, that’s not your identity. Your identity is so much more, you have so much more to give. You are a light in this world, and and like for me, I see you and I see humor and light, and I see a warrior. I see someone that is out there fighting and saying, I will not let my light dim or be identified as an alcoholic. That is not who I am, that’s just what happened to me because of my circumstances. So I I love your story and I love your approach to it. Um, tell me more about the book, the latest book that you wrote. What is it about?
Is Loading Identity. You can find it at loadingidentity.com. It’s free until August 8th. So if anybody wants to download it, it’s free to come down until August 8th. Um, that’s when it’s going to be officially published. So if you want an early release copy, you just go to Loading Identity, give me your email address, and I’ve got an audio copy and the PDF.
August 8th. It’s the day after my birthday. So happy birthday to me, you know.
Um it’s gritty.
Um, I mean, I I I put places in there for you to break, and and it it’s right because it’s information, and it’s like, okay, stop, reflect, let it sink into your body, you know, like your thoughts and these are real stories from my life, and they’re uh they can get pretty dark.
I’ve been on deathbeds multiple times, uh, been shot, stabbed, ran over by semis. Um, right? Yeah, my favorite says there’s no evidence that I’m capable of dying.
That’s cute. That’s cute. You know. But we will have like beautiful bodies in heaven. I mean, we will be like glow I mean, I look forward to that day. I used to be so afraid of death. And then when I faced that, I was like, ah, no big deal.
Yeah. I’ve never been afraid of death. It’s never been something that concerns me. Um, I’ve always had a knowing about what eternity looks like.
Um I read a bark on it as my dad received his terminal diagnosis because it was like, I couldn’t control a single thing of what was coming. Like zero. And I’m the type of person that because of the trauma that I incurred with my father at a very young age, I was a security seeker. So I like held on to control. Well, control, like perfectionism, is just an illusion of the mind. That’s not something that’s real, though we think it’s real. I think that’s funny. Um, but then COVID here, I think most of us realized that is not real.
Yeah. And Reclaim Sobride, I tell some stories about my transcendence. Um, you know, is that time travel? Is that different life experiences? Or is it just neural nets firing in a in a particular way? I’m not here to discuss that. I just give you my experiences and my my truths and my beliefs. Um The thing is that there’s some people that have very, very unique gifts.
Um and he gave them to you for a reason.
He it’s not gonna cost we well, some shut them down. Yeah, we were given language to break our communication cycle with Mother Nature. We were given English and Spanish and all these different languages to so we can communicate with each other, and that breaks our communication with nature and spirit and everything else, right? Because now we have this different analytical mind that we’re trying to live this life with other humans.
And I don’t mind the Spanish, I can I can still converse with my higher consciousness in Spanish. I am fluent in Spanish, that’s my first language, just FYR. But um, but I just you know, there’s more to us. There’s there’s way more to us. There’s there’s we don’t have spirits of timidness. I mean, the Lord says that in his book. I did not give you a spirit of timidness, I gave you a spirit of power, love, and self-discipline. And you’ve talked about all three on the podcast. You think about it. You all have power, you have love, right? The essence of love is so powerful and self-discipline. You can do this. Like this identity that tells you you can’t do it, that’s an old programming. And you can get out of there because you do have the self-discipline. You can get up and do it every day and build a new armor and build a new identity. That requires discipline, that requires action on your part. I think most people think, well, it’s just gonna magically happen for me. No, it you gotta get out there, you gotta do it. Like you became an author, you got out there, you you did comedy, you said, I want to test this idea out before I put it out into the world. You became the student first. I became the student first. Everything I coach on, I’ve been a student of. He’s put me in training, and let me tell you, that training can be tough. If you’re not ready for it, you know, but I’m a warrior. You’re you’re a warrior, I’m a light warrior. I’ve been I’ve been charged to bring more people to their light and to their divine purpose. That’s my mission, right? You you have a different mission. We don’t compete. We can actually co-collaborate and say, okay, I’ll help you out. You help me out.
And then we want to give people a little bit of a warning. Um, because at some point you start being very grateful for the challenges that you have in life. I love that though. I I’ve had these, I’ve had these challenges and I’m grateful for them. Something that can happen is they can adopt the identity of a struggler or an underdog.
Yeah. Right. And then then what happens is you’re actively searching hard things to overcome that don’t need to be overcome. Yeah. You know what?
God stopped me there last year, and he was like, uh, I don’t know why you keep trying to achieve my love. You already have it. Like, what are you doing? Why are you working towards it? Why are you climbing these mountains? I already gave you the mountain. Like, why are you doing this again? And what I found is that I was falling back into old patterns of behaving without realizing it. You know, it’s a subconscious thing, right? So he stopped me dead in my tracks, and he kind of said, What I want from you is your heart. That’s what I want from you. I want relationship with you. That’s all I’m asking for. The rest you want to achieve, that’s up to you. I’m not asking that of you. Okay? I’m giving you I’m giving you a particular set of skills and use them to the best of your ability, yes. But you don’t need to achieve my love. You don’t need to achieve your husband’s love. You’ve been doing that because your dad’s been gone almost two years, so and you’re still doing it with all the men in your life. Why? Including me, the Lord. I didn’t ask that of you, right? So I do agree with you. I do think that there’s a subconscious uh programming there that can get triggered. And if we’re not, if we’re not reflecting every day, we don’t catch it, and we just keep doing it.
Um because you could if without stripping regularly and really like going back to your just who you are as a human and your center. Like, what’s your center?
Like, come back.
Right? Every time, so like right now, you and I on this Zoom are creating new identities for each other. Right? We’re learning from each other, and this is its own identity in itself, right? Now, we’re not gonna do this for more than 30 minutes to an hour, so it’s not gonna embed in me really deep. But if we were together every day for a couple years, we would become part of each other’s identity, right? And and we’re picking all this stuff up just willy-nilly throughout our life.
Right?
And we have to remind ourselves of that. It doesn’t have the ability to say, uh, I don’t want that. And it’s on automatic. It’s like all this stuff you listen to, it does matter. Yeah, so you’re letting the music, everything, be very aware of that.
Yeah.
You’re letting the world program you with zero intention of your own. And that’s where I think free will really comes into play.
Yes.
Yeah, I maybe I don’t have very many decisions on a daily basis, circumstances dictate what I do, but I can make the decision to move forward in a mindful way versus a non-mindful way, and let life happen to me, or am I the or am I the orchestrator of my life? Yeah.
Figure out you can be the orchestrator, holy shit, you could do anything.
Yeah. You know, I read a book long ago, and there was a quote in that book, and it talked a lot about what you’re saying. I want to recap it for the listeners. If you listen to yourself, you’re never you’re you’re never gonna get out of those thoughts. But if you start talking to yourself now, that’s key. Because then you can reframe whatever you want, right? So you can take those thoughts captive, make them obedient to the identity that you want to create. Yeah, and you have those choices. That’s the conscious ability of your mind, and that’s how you can use that conscious ability of your mind to help your subconscious like create new identities, yeah, create new belief systems, shift the old with the new, like from fear to love. Why are you telling yourself you’re an alcoholic? You’re not, you are choosing that, and you’re choosing it, you are a new creation. In my case, I tell myself I’m a new creation in the Lord, and as a new creation, if he’s telling me that I have the spirit, a confident spirit of power, love, and self-discipline, then who am I to tell the maker of the universe that he’s wrong? I mean, seriously. I grew up and drama crazy, you know? So then I started to step into that and it started to become that identity. And once you become that identity, everything flows from there. It it’s it be life becomes a little bit easier. Let me put it that way. Not that you don’t, not that you’re gonna stop having trials and tribulations, that’s not what that means. You’re still gonna have that, but you’re gonna have a much more powerful identity, move through those trials and tribulations moving forward. So let me ask you this, Ken. If I wanted to purchase your book, I wanted to contact you because I want you on a stage somewhere to talk about these things that you’ve discovered through your journey of sobriety and comedy. How can I find you?
The easiest way to find me is go to Kencox.com, K-E-N-C-O-X.com. From there you can link over to Loading Identity, which is my new book coming out August 8th. It’s available for free download now. Um, and reclaims sobriety.com is my book on, it’s my program for sobriety uh specifically. And the people that would like that book, um, it’s not the person that’s currently way into addiction, like currently drinking or doing drugs or whatever. It’s for somebody in the when they’re in post-acute withdrawal syndrome, pause stage. Um, they know that they have a problem and they’re that they’re trying to quit and they’re really struggling with it, and that’s where identity really uh picks up and starts helping. You might need to identify as an alcoholic to get over your first your first hump.
Well, because because first you need to realize come to state the truth of the situation, right?
You gotta strip that identity quick or you’re gonna screw that forever.
Like that’s but at least identify with it first so that you can start with the truth and start working towards the new truth, right? Your new creation, depending on where you go. Because a lot of recovery programs are in churches across the nation, right? So we’re gonna start building you back up. Um and any last words of encouragement for those that are currently navigating this dark chapter, Ken.
Yeah, I think a big part for me was a very simple line in how my brain works, that I am not, I don’t have the capability to predict my next set of thoughts. I can’t guess what my next set of thoughts are gonna be, but I sure as hell have the ability to choose what my next set of thoughts are gonna be if I stay mindful. Right? So if I’m if I’m consistently, you know, staying ahead of, hey, this is where I’m at, this is what I’m working on, and I can stay mindful of where I’m at, what I’m doing, and how I’m moving forward as a man, then I’ve got a chance. If I don’t stay mindful and I just let the world happen to me, then I really then then my the circumstances that they got me to hear without mindfulness and really stepping forward with intention, my life is a disaster. And it will, you know, it might go, it might be okay for years, months, but eventually something’s gonna go off the rails, and I’m gonna convince myself that it’s something’s okay to do, and I’ll be right back into the same old pattern. So um these daily practices of mindfulness and meditation and reading your core values and having a group, um, I think are wildly important.
Yes, and I couldn’t agree more. And for the listeners of the reason that we will purpose, you know how always sign off to be the light. Remembering Matthew 5.14, biblical standards. Look at look at the light that Ken has created over such a dark chapter, you know, a dark start. And it’s not where you start, it’s how you finish the race. You know, we all are in our own separate races with our own separate lights, our own separate, very unique set of skills that when we put them together, we become unstoppable. When we work together and go collaborate with each other, we really can move forward in this life. And um, join us, be the light like we’ve been the light. We’ve stepped out of our comfort zone. We did it in comedy, I did it writing a book when God was like, You gotta write the book. I’m like, I really don’t want to do this. And I wrote it, and guess what? I was able to forgive my dad. I was able to move past this anger and this resentful identity that held me back for so long. And if I can do it, and if Ken can do it, so can you. So can you. You have the same capacity and the same spirit God has given you. He gave to both of us. You can do this. I believe in you. Thank you so much, Ken, for joining us today on Released Out Revealed Purpose. Everybody have a wonderful rest and blessed rest of your day. Bye now.
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