What if the life you built to feel free became the cage that kept you numb?
That’s where former gym owner turned hypnotherapist Deron Singh found himself—multiple businesses, financial comfort, and a crushing emptiness that no new project could fix. When even copy-pasting a spreadsheet cell felt impossible, he closed his gyms overnight and began an honest reckoning with grief, identity, and the beliefs buried in his subconscious.
We unpack how conversational hypnosis helped Deron bypass the analytical mind and meet the parts of himself created to survive—overachiever, appeaser, protector—without shaming them. He explains why “there’s nothing to fix” isn’t a platitude but a practical path: feelings change when they’re accepted rather than avoided. Expect a clear, grounded look at trance work, how safety unlocks the subconscious, why labels can harden into traps, and what it means to release the need to perform for love.
Along the way, we weave in faith and intuition, the small signs that pulled Deron back from suicidal thoughts, and the surprising relief that came from sitting with grief to make room for joy.
If you’ve tried talk therapy, pep talks, or grinding harder only to find yourself back at the same wall, this conversation offers a different doorway.
You’ll leave with practical steps to create safety in your system, relate to your emotions like cared-for children, and let your purpose grow from truth rather than pressure.
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Transcript:
If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry and wondering what your true purpose was all about, then this podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham.
Hey Lightbringers, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to Released Out Reveal Purpose. And today’s Duron Singh. And I read his background. I was blown away because I could relate, totally relate. I was once where Duran was. I worked and worked and worked and achieved and achieved and achieved. And I thought that maybe if I just kept doing it, I would feel happy and fulfilled. And when I stood on stage in front of 300 of my peers for the number one company in the world, I was our number one rep. I felt nothing inside. And I and the first thought that went to my mind was, is this what happiness feels like? So when I read his biography that he had built multiple businesses, and then one day he just felt so burned out. And he tried to control his mind. He thought, well, maybe you know, if you control your mind and you think positive thoughts and your logical, it’ll all go away. And the truth was, no, the truth is very much hidden within our subconscious mind, within the layers and layers of programming that are there from the time we’re born to the time that we have that burnout, that turning point. So without further ado, I’d love to introduce you to Duran Singh. Welcome.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
It’s a pleasure to have you. And I know you have an amazing story of transformation to share. So please take the stage.
Yeah, so just to reflect on what you uh just stated, um I started my early career as a business owner. I was really just motivated and inspired to just have my own business. Um, and I was a gym owner, so I owned two gyms, was in the process of opening a third gym. And I thought that more money would equate to more happiness, or success would equate to happiness. And it was this idea where it was like, okay, yeah, I had all this money, all this freedom. I had the ability to not work for weeks if I didn’t want to and still be able to generate income because I had everything lined up in place for my businesses. However, there was this feeling inside like it’s not enough. As if I had to do more. So I just ventured into doing more, just find looking to find myself doing more of whatever I could. So okay, maybe it was to do speaking, maybe it was to write a book, um, sell digital products, sell just products in general. And I was doing all those things, however, the feeling didn’t change. And as you said, Sylvia, it got to a point where I just experienced this burnout. I didn’t know I didn’t label it at the time as burnout, I just knew whatever I was feeling at the time, it was not a very pleasant experience. And I tell this story to many people where there was one time I was sitting down, I was in a co-working space, I separated myself from the gym because I just didn’t want to be around people or employees at my gym, because where my headspace was, I just didn’t have the capacity to really deal with anything at that time. So it could have been something that’s like a simple question that they needed some clarity on. I just my mind was just gone to that point. So there was a co-working space down the street from one of my gyms, and I remember I sat there at a desk and I had a spreadsheet opened up, and all I had to do is cop you know, control C copy and paste one cell to another one, and I just couldn’t do it. I was just so burnt out. I just remember staring at the screen like I don’t even have the energy to do this right now. Something as minuscule and simple as that. Um it was a very difficult time for me, especially because during that time in my life, I was dealing with uh child custody stuff at the moment at the time, so a lot of legal stuff, trying to run uh business or businesses at the time, and because of this feeling, I started to my business started to decline. And it was like one thing was um one thing was um affecting the other thing and vice versa. And eventually got to a point where I remember I just said I can’t do this anymore. And I remember I was standing in my gym on a Saturday morning and I was teaching the class, about twenty or so clients, and they’re doing the workout, and I remember I just stood in the middle of the gym floor, just like staring off, like zoned out, and I just was like, I just can’t do this anymore. And I remember after the workout was over, clients would come up to me saying, like, hey, you know, I gotta pay and this, that, and the other, and I was just like, we’ll deal with it later. And the moment everyone left the gym, I dropped to my knees and just broke down crying, and I was just like, I can’t do this anymore. And I remember um talking to my mom, and she’s like, you know, you just you should talk to someone. And she found a therapist at the time, and I remember speaking about what was taking place for me at that time, and then I just had this thought, it was just like just close down. And I remember told the therapist, I was like, I think I’m just gonna close my gym down. And she was just like, You should probably think about this. And I remember sitting down in her office saying, I think I’ve thought about it long enough. And it was I literally just sent an email to all my clients saying, Hey, the gym’s closing down as of now. As crazy as that sounds, they have a business, it was to that point where I know everyone was shocked, like, what? Because we would think in our society you’re gonna get a huge notice, especially for a business of that scale, like six months ahead of time or year, this was like, no, done. So, of course, it was a huge uproar for people, and even during that time, I um I think I switched my number because at the time, because I was just dealing with so much happening. So it was a very, very tough time for me. And I remember thinking to myself, oh, and then I’ll deal with some heartbreak at the same time. So it was it was it was a lot. So heartbreak, legal stuff, business stuff all at once. It was trying to s stay afloat while you have a thousand-pound anchor tied to your ankle. And as much as you try to stay afloat, like you you know you’re gonna keep getting pulled down.
Yeah, you will, you will, because at the core there was something amiss, and your body knows the body is so smart, it really is very, very smart, and our intuition is even smarter. We just never tap into it as much as we should, and I that voice that you heard. See, I’m a woman of faith, I know in my heart that’s the Holy Spirit saying, You need to shut down. This isn’t the life for you, this isn’t who I created you to be. But we’re so caught up in what society tells us we should be. What does success mean to society? Achieve, achieve, especially in this country. It’s like, go, go, keep going. Don’t don’t be present, don’t be, you know, don’t enjoy. You’re not supposed to enjoy. You’re supposed to achieve, and this is the definition of success. And if you don’t achieve that, you’re a failure. That’s basically what we the messages we receive in our subconscious mind. And as a life coach, I can tell you there’s so much of it at you know, so much of that influence all around us. And if we’re not careful, we allow those influences to speak into us and get pulled into that frame of mind. And our bodies will at one point just give out. My mind gave out it physically, like where I ended up seeing six doctors in a hospital room, basically telling my family that I had an 80% chance of dying. You know, I just kept going and going. I was a uh top sales rep for Pfizer Fund Circles. I was in the hospital division, I was a single parent, so I could I could relate, as you were saying, you know, you were going through legal stuff with children. I was going through massive legal stuff at the time. Um my husband of nine years asked for a divorce, and we had a four-year-old son. And I had just been promoted at Pfizer, and my the senior vice president knew the my territory name because it was the one of two territories that was dragging the sales um in the region. So they told me, you have six months, so we had to turn that territory around. And I had a little boy and I was going through a divorce, and the stress, just the immense stress that the body was under. Um, so it’s no wonder that we carry it, we carry it after a while. Our body’s like, no, no, you’re gonna stop right now. So I want to know, like, I know when I read your biography, you mentioned you had been through therapists and coaches, and then finally you landed on hypnosis. Is that correct?
Yeah, um, I went through a long list of therapists and coaches um of all styles, methodologies, and backgrounds, and ultimately I was just seeking to find some relief with what was going on. At the time, I knew something was going on. I just didn’t know what it was. I just knew that the way I’d wake up in the morning and how I’d feel throughout the day was probably not natural. If it was natural, then I would truly say that life is about suffering, then based on how I was feeling. Um and it was it was it that’s how I felt. I felt like I was just suffering, and I had to find out what to do about it. Um there were times I’d work with a therapist, and then it seemed like there was some relief, and then it would be like the next day or a week later, I’m like, oh wow, I could feel back to how I was before. So I almost felt like a good pep talk, um which worked for a couple days or so, and then I would resort back to my old identity of numb feeling, suffering feeling. Um even while I was going through all that stuff, all the therapists and everything, I was still intrigued by the profession itself. So even after I um so to kind of go back to the the gym, long story short on that, I ended up selling the gyms, and I was like on this pursuit to try to figure out what was next for me. I went into yoga, went into life coaching, um, well, I went into yoga, and then I went into online personal training, and then I noticed as I was working with clients, some clients, I was there to just help them with their meal plans and their workouts, and they were like, I just need someone to talk to. I’m like, oh, okay, cool, cool. Yeah, let’s let’s talk. I’m like, I guess that’s pretty important. Like, if you’re stressed out, I can see why you’re not gonna work out. And I was really I loved speaking to clients that way, and that’s what really led me to life coaching, learning about that that the um philosophies and certifications about that, and then being certified in with that, and then from there I really wanted to go deeper, and I wanted to become a therapist, and I was like, I don’t want to go back, I don’t want to go back to school. And I remember I was I set an intention, like I want to do therapy without going back to school for it. And I remember I came across an ad online, I was on Facebook, and it was for hypnotherapy, and I’m like, Oh, let me let me do this, and I did it, and I was just like, wow, this is actually pretty, pretty good stuff. Um, that’s ultimately what got me into it, is once again just setting the intention. And at that time, I just was open to how it would show up for me.
I love that journey because I think most people want to know, like, okay, he’s sitting there, kneel, kneel down, you know, and just crying, and everybody’s been there at one point or another in their life, at least in our age group, right? Maybe not to be in because in our 20s, we’re just we have so much energy and we want to prove ourselves, so that’s why we go for so long. But then we start hitting like mid or you know, like middle part of the 30s, and that’s where things start to not make as much sense. And what I want people to understand is that sometimes this isn’t a linear thing, it’s not a quick fix. It is, it takes time sometimes and faith to step into areas that you’re not familiar with, but because you’re being led by that voice inside of your body that’s telling you, go here. This is this is what I truly desire. You need to discover who you are at your core without all the layers on top of you, because I bet you had layers on you that you uncover through therapy, right? Because some of these things help us to uncover. Life coaching also helps us uncover the belief systems that are at the root of why we think and react in certain situations and develop certain habits and patterns of behavior. So we know that about life coaching. And so each piece gives us a little bit more of the puzzle of who we are. But I bet hypnosis really got to the root cause, didn’t it?
Yeah, hypnosis ultimately has been the only thing that I’ve done that has helped me resolve the um things that I was dealing with in the past part of my life. The depression, the anxiety, um the heartbreak, the grief. And what’s uh so profound about it is when you do hypnosis, you realize that there isn’t anything to fix. There isn’t anything to solve, and that was one of the biggest things that realizations I had because as I said earlier, I was trying to find like something to what was going on with me, even though I didn’t know. And hypnosis made me realize there’s nothing wrong with you.
So tell us more about that because I’m very, very curious about that.
Yeah, so what I mean by that is we live our lives and we experience something. So, like, for example, for me, I experienced a feeling I didn’t like. So I was in this pursuit to try to change that feeling. I don’t like this feeling. I have to maybe open up a business, maybe uh I can get all this attention and make me feel good. But then it’s me attaching my emotion based off of something outside of me. So if that thing outside of me changes, my emotion inside changes. So now ultimately that means I’m a victim to whatever happens in my external environment. Where instead it’s like, hey, how why not just be in control of your own emotions? However, at the time, I didn’t know this until I did hypnosis where uh I didn’t like what I was feeling, so I was trying to find some way to avoid that feeling. Okay, for some people, they do drugs, alcohol, overwork. For me, I was I was that that workaholic. I was too busy to feel. I was too busy, I was running the gym and doing this and doing this, and with hypnosis, I realized if you want to change, it’s not about changing who you are, it’s about changing how you feel. And the only way to change how you feel is you have to accept how you feel. Yeah, I didn’t accept how I felt at the time. Yeah, it was where I realized I actually um was working with someone, um hypnotist, and during our session together, I was like, I think I just figured it all out. I’ve been spending probably 20, 30 plus years of my life trying to be happy. And I was so unsure about how come I’m not happy when I’m doing all these things that people say, hey, do the things that make you happy. And I was doing those things because I thought doing those things that make you happy will make you happy until I realized, Duran, that grief that you feel right now, you have to go through the grief to actually feel the happiness. And that was like me, like just throwing myself back in my chair, like, oh my god, like yeah, I’ve never there like those aren’t things that you can read in books. Yeah, these are things that your mind can only give you because that your mind has the solutions to all the quote unquote problems, the way you label those problems, all the solutions for them. And at that moment, it was like, okay, I’m gonna just sit with my grief. Yeah, I’m gonna be like, hey, you know what? I don’t like this feeling, but I’m gonna stay with it. And I personify our emotions and our feelings like children. Like you may see your child doing something that you don’t like, but you don’t shun them, you don’t you don’t condemn them, like hey, yeah, you know, grief, I don’t like what you’re doing to me right now. But there’s probably a reason why you’re doing it.
Yeah.
So instead of me criticizing you, I just I want to I want to learn more about you.
Yeah. Stay curious about you. Like, what are you trying to teach me? What are you showing me? I learned that through the identities that were showing up for me. And I I couldn’t see them initially until I read a book, and then my mind went click. And it was my old anxious seven-year-old identity showing up, pursuing my husband, trying to make things right, because she felt like he was gonna leave her otherwise. So I had to recognize that she was showing up for me. I had to sit with her and I had to like give her all the love and the compassion she never got ever. I also had to sit with my bullied self in high school. You know, she built this armor of pride all around her. She was a badass, you know, she survived it, but she’d show up in conflict with my husband and like guns ablazing, like triggered, totally triggered. And I couldn’t understand why. I couldn’t, my husband couldn’t understand either. He’s like, Well, it has to do something with your past. But and we were, I was going to therapy and everything, and then I interviewed this guy on the podcast, and he shared of like going, having uh it wasn’t hypnosis, it was um psychedelic like experience and how he talked to us himself in in his bedroom, and he was a little boy, and he said to Lee, I I just had to acknowledge him. That’s all he wanted was to be acknowledged. Our pain just wants to be acknowledged, it wants to teach us something, it wants to be seen. And when we don’t sit with our feelings and we suppress them, and and you we think that toxic positivity is gonna get us there, it’s not, it’s gonna keep coming back and it’s gonna cost you massively. Not just physically in your body, it’s gonna cost you mentally, emotionally. You’re gonna stay in these cycles of like, what is going on? Why am I like, why can’t I get out of this feeling I’m feeling? Well, avoiding our pain is not gonna help us. It’s working through our pain, it’s acknowledging that it’s there, it’s learning the lesson that it’s teaching us, it’s embracing. I embraced my child this morning and in my coffee chat with God. I was bawling because yesterday in my therapy session, we were going through a genogram. And for those that don’t know what that is, it’s kind of like a family tree, but it’s talking about the um the relationship between in the birth family and how you know feelings get developed, and you know, why I felt inadequate in my birth family and why I felt not seen in my marriage and how that was playing a role. And I just sat there and like a lot of things were coming up for me this morning, and I just cried. I cried for her because she felt excluded in her own home and she felt excluded at school, and she felt like she didn’t belong anywhere. So when these themes come up in my present life, of course the wound is open, of course it’s there because it’s been there all along. I’ve never dealt with it. So now’s the time to like sit with her and just kind of like you said, naming it like, I know, baby girl, I know you’re suffering. I know you just want to be seen. That’s all you wanted. You just wanted to be appreciated for everything you were doing, and nobody appreciated you. Well, I appreciate you, you know, and it’s kind of like what you were doing with your pain of like, I’m not gonna criticize it. It’s trying to teach me something. You know, I went through major grief and I just never dealt with it. And working through it is in order to gain freedom from our fear-based belief systems and all this stuff that is the layers of the programming, we gotta work through it to get to the side of joy. Joy is sitting there waiting patiently, like, I’m right here, but you gotta you kind of have to work through this first. Yeah, because it’s gonna be in disalignment in your heart. You know, it’s you’re we can’t have this fulfillment that we’re seeking and this peace and joy without first acknowledging and accepting that we have layers and that they have beautiful lessons to teach us.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I’m working on that. I I completely understand. That’s why I really was excited to interview you because I wanted to learn more about hypnosis. Like, so tell us a bit more about how you work with people in in your purpose now. Because I imagine this is what you’re actively doing and helping people with.
Yeah, so I’m a conversational hypnotist or hypnotherapist. So ultimately, um I use specific language to help someone bypass the analytical part of their mind. So the analytical part is gonna be the conscious part. So that would be someone saying, Oh, Duran, I am dealing with X, Y, and Z because I have this ancient, anxious attachment style. That’s just a conscious uh hypothesis. I use the language patterns to help bypass that part of their mind that thinks they know what it is, to that way get to the root of their subconscious mind to help them change the program. Now, what tends to happen is there are layers of the subconscious mind. And when an individual has pushed down that hurt pain or whatever else they’ve suppressed or repressed, they form layers. And this is very important for people to realize because um in our society now, we’re very quick to label people, whether it be they’re a narcissist, or they’re this, or they’re this, or they’re this, or they’re bipolar, they have BPD. What’s very imperative to know is we all have those traits. We all do. We may not have them as uh exaggerated as some people, but we all have those traits. Because a narcissist is a person that is likely someone that didn’t have love, so they’re trying to find some way to fill that void, and it comes off as manipulation. Everyone has done some form of manipulation at some point in their life. It’s just you there’s no denying that. And ultimately, it’s these are layers that we have created within our subconscious mind to make us feel safe, seen. Because if we feel safe, we feel seen, we feel loved, we feel supported, we feel understood, we’re fine. But if one of those things does not get checked off, then of course we’re gonna form identities for us to get that. Plain is simple. And it’s just like if you have a pet animal or a dog, the dog knows if it comes around you and it shows them love, it may get a treat. Then why does it keep doing that every time you it comes around you? Because it’s been conditioned, though I’m gonna get a treat. So these identities are formed. So with conversational hypnosis, we get into the mind, and then sometimes if we sink to the mind, we may hit a block. Okay, and when it hits that block, the person comes out of hypnosis, and then they may say something like Duran, that makes a lot of sense. But now I’m realizing that this could be because of X, Y, and Z. So now we address the new layer, the new block. Then that one gets shattered, and then we get deeper and deeper and deeper. Next thing you know, there’s no more knots or no more blocks that are surrounding that specific problem that they have, to the point where they’re just like, I guess I just gotta be happy. Because since it looks something very similar to us just having a conversation, um, a client can be like, Hey no, Jeron, like I have no idea what we were doing for the past hour. And I’m like, I know, and guess what? It’s okay. Because if you don’t know, then you have no way of trying to analyze everything. Because that’s the conscious mind trying to figure out, trying to be back in control, trying to control the situation. Where we have this extremely powerful thing, we have the most powerful tool in the world in the form of a subconscious mind. Why not let it do all the work for you?
It’s doing it anyways, it’s doing it anyways, you know, not in the best way possible, right? When we we have the programming, so why not learn to work with the subconscious so it works for you in a positive way? It’s in that sense what you’re saying, right? Yeah, which is what we what as life coaches we kind of train coach our our you know people on is you want to learn, first of all, what’s at the subconscious level, but sometimes we can’t get as deep, you know, because it’s number one, we’re not trained to get as deep. Hypnosis has a different type of training, I would assume, than life coaching.
Yeah. Um hypnosis is all subconscious work. Um, some and I think when it comes down to life coaching or coaching in general, it really depends on uh individual coaches’ background because it can be conscious and subconscious work. Okay. Um, so that’s gonna really depend on the person’s mentor or their training per se. Hypnosis is all subconscious work. Okay because the subconscious is where the identities, the beliefs, the emotions, the feelings, that’s where they live. Well, if they live there, that’s the door I’m gonna knock on. Hey, hey, can I come in? I just want to have a talk. Or if not, come on out. Let’s have a let’s let’s have some fun.
That’s awesome. Okay, so if people wanted to work with you, um, first of all, can anyone work with you or who do you work with primarily?
Um, so with hypnosis, it practically can work on any type of individual because it’s their mind. And what’s really great about it is you don’t have to research what their problem is and gain more clarity. That’s all that’s all knowledge. They don’t need more knowledge, they need more awareness, they need more understanding and clarity. So I work with clients who’ve had cancer, Parkinson’s. Um, that’s probably the most not say extreme, but some things that we would consider like pretty intense um symptoms or presenting problems. Um the type of clients I work with now, majority of the clients I work with now are gonna be those who want to work on um heartbreak, grief, depression, anxiety, growing their business, financial abundance. Those are the the common things I work with. Okay. Um and going back to hypnosis, you don’t have to know anything about the problem. All you have to do is know how to navigate them to that state of trance, which is that lowered and altered, not altered, lowered brainwave state, to where they could create the change that they uh request.
Okay.
Because the problem that an individual comes to you about is not really what it is, nine times out of ten. It’s just and that’s why in some therapeutic spaces they call it presenting problem. It’s the problem that people are presenting to you. It’s really just um like a mask to something deeper. Okay, and that’s how come sometimes clients will be like, we never even talked about the problem. And I’d be like, I know, because it’s has nothing to do with it. Because if it was about that, we wouldn’t be talking right now. It’s just a way that our unconscious subconscious mind, it almost distracts us to what it really is because it doesn’t want you to be, it doesn’t feel safe enough for you to handle it. So the key for hypnosis is for an individual to feel safe and to have that relationship with them because it’s just like if you like you mentioned, like if you were bullied in school, you’re not gonna tell the bully everything about your life because you don’t like the bully and you don’t feel safe around them. Yeah, but your best friend you could probably talk to for three hours on the phone because you like the person, obviously, and then you you know them. So it’s the same thing with hypnosis. If that relationship is there, the unconscious mind feels safe to open up and release certain information. And as the hypnotist, all you do is you kind of organize that for them in certain certain techniques to where they look and look at it and be like, hey, look, and then they can be like, I did say that, didn’t I? Like, yeah. And then they’ll realize, huh. I guess I kept trying to deny that I didn’t, but I guess I did. Because sometimes they have a Foodian slip. Sometimes they’ll say something like I’ve had someone that’s like, Yeah, I love my life, and he was just so deep into this trance, and he’s like, Da-da-da-da-da. I just hate my life. And I’m like, interesting how you love your life and you hate your life at the same time. He’s like, I didn’t realize I said that. I was like, Yeah, because your truth really came out.
But telling myself I love my life was this conscious, like a conditioning that you wanted to do to kind of protect yourself from really feeling the feeling within. Yeah, it’s the armor that we build up around us uh to protect us. When we’re little, our mind is so powerful. Holy moly! I mean, it just we have the layers are there, it’s so it is very, very powerful, and that’s why we guide people, be aware of who you surround yourself with, how much of the outside world is influencing how you’re thinking. All of this matters, all of this is something you need to be aware of. But I I find that your work is is very fruitful and it probably gives you so much joy to do for people, yeah.
It does, it does because um every session is vastly different, and as I work with clients, I’m in that state of trance with them, and it’s like I’ll say stuff that I’m like, man, that was so good. And I’m like, I don’t know where it came from because I’m in that state with them where my unconscious mind is delivering the words that they need to hear, and it’s funny because sometimes I’ll mention something to a client like, you know, what you said reminds me about X, Y, and Z. And they’re like, I just dealt with that this morning. I’m like, huh, that’s funny. I’m not sure where that came from, but it’s because we’re so connected. It’s that that energy exchange.
It is, we’re all interconnected. There’s there’s things that we say that are meant for that person. In my my case, I’ve always I had a conversation on Monday. I was interviewing Holly Porter, and she died basically. Not died, but she had been in a hospital bed for 70 days with COVID-19. Sicker had sepsis, was in an induced coma like twice, had visions of the after, you know, the afterlife of heaven of Christ. And he came to her and was just like, you know, um, it’s totally different. Like what I need you to do, your divine purpose is totally different than what you’re doing now. She was like, you building businesses and totally on the wrong path, and then everything changed. And I mean, like she calls it the shift. I was like, yeah, that was a major shift for you, though. I mean, that’s like a huge awakening. Uh, but the subconscious mind, like that that voice will guide you. We were spirit-led the entire conversation. What I had to say to her, she was meant for her, like, because I was allowing the Holy Spirit to lead the conversation. I used myself as a vehicle, and and he just spoke to her, and then what she had to say was coming directly at me after, like, I had just had a conversation with Christ that morning about the exact same thing. I was like, come on, and and it’s it’s too sometimes it’s just like wow, it’s it is a small world, we are all interconnected. We our lives, our purposes, they they fill um not just us in inwardly, but they feel a purpose for the person we’re serving, you know, and and we are that answer to those prayers they’ve had. Like, I just want to get out of this pain. I don’t want to be in this numb state anymore. I just I need help. And you become that help for them, or you become the voice that they needed to hear that very day, because otherwise they were gonna commit suicide or something. We don’t know. I mean, we our impact in this world is so we don’t know the bigger plan, you know. We just know that we are being led into this beautiful purpose, and when we do, everybody around us thrives. I mean, the light that I feel and that I see in others as they are truly in the role they’re meant to play in this world, it’s beautiful to watch. It really is. And I bet you’re having the time of your life with all these. I mean, like admit it just you look at your old life and your old identity and you can’t believe it’s the same person, you know?
No, and and that’s very accurate. And there’s I’ve had people take pictures of me, and I’m like, oh my god, like I look like I was 20 years older, and now I look like 20 years younger. It’s amazing. And there’s two things, there’s two thoughts, two things you said, or two things as you’re talking, two things came up for me. Um where I remember I didn’t mention this, and it did it just kind of popped up for me before I sold my gym and I made that decision when I was with that therapist. It was probably a year before that. I remember I’m like, man, I just don’t want to do this anymore. Talking about the gym. And then I remember it was a rainy night, and I remember I’m in my bathroom, and um, I think I was just I don’t know if I was praying or I was just probably praying or meditating or probably praying. And I was like, man, I just I just I want to just close the gym down. I just need a sign about if I should do it. And then I remember once I finished saying that, I heard a boom. This big loud thunder. And I was just like looking around and I’m like, man, that was just a coincidence, right? I was like, God, I just okay, like I just that was probably coincidence, like no coincidence. Like, like I I need another sign, like I should do that. Boom. Promise you was like right after I finished saying that. And the thing is, I I didn’t at that time, and look what happened. So if one thing will make you move and act, that pain will teach you better than anything else. And you mentioned, like, hey, you don’t know what someone’s going through, like they could be contemplating suicide. I was that person. I during that time when I sold my gym, I was like, like I said, legal stuff, gym closure, um, heartbreak. I was like, there’s no point in living. That’s that was my mentality at the time. And I remember, and I say that because, like you said, Sylvia, like, we don’t know what people are going through. So all we can do is just do the best that we can do to help them get to the place where they realize and remember who they truly are past all the trauma, the hurt, and the pain, back to their happy, loving self. And I remember like, and I was just driving down the road and I saw a sign that said, Don’t forget to be a dad today. And I saw that sign, and I was just like, What am I doing? Yeah, I things can get better. Yes. So for those who watch this, know that things can get better. Like just continue having faith. Faith is very strong, it’s very powerful. Anything can happen, and your life can change in an instant. It’s just a matter of you just having faith that it that it can.
I love those words. And I, as you were talking, the Holy Spirit, like I when I know he’s in the room, is when I get the ch like a like a tingling sensation from the crown of my head all the way down into my heart space. And so he’s in the house. Um what you had to say is meant for someone on the other side of this interview. Beautiful words. Thank you, Daron, for being gracious enough and humble enough to share your your very powerful testimony. Um, I’m grateful that you are doing what you’re doing because you’re helping a great deal of people. I know it. I feel it actually. Energetically, I don’t have to be in the same room with you and I can sense it. I if people wanted to work with you, how do we find you?
Yeah, so um three places I always recommend people to go. Uh to always first just check out my check out my YouTube channel. It’s Daron underscore Sing. My Instagram is another other place. I’m active, same thing, Daron underscore sing. And then um when you’re ready to work with me, you can head to my website, daronsing.com. There’s an application on there, form on there you can fill out, and um, I’ll review it. And if I find that we are uh to be a good fit to work with another, then we’ll have that conversation and make it happen.
Awesome. Thank you so much for your time again and for your powerful words at the end, and all the stories you shared with us, and for the listeners that have released out reveal purpose. Remember Matthew 5.14 to be the light. You are a beautiful light in this world. We all need you to step into your divine purpose fully and joyfully because you have something unique inside of you, a unique gift you’ve been given, just like Daron and I. And when you give it to humanity, we all thrive, we all um are better for it. So have a beautiful and blessed rest of your day. Love y’all. Bye now.
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