What if the ladder you’ve been climbing leans against the wrong wall? Aaron joins us to unpack how 20 years on Wall Street led to a breaking point, a leap into the unknown, and a framework for awakening that blends grounded logic, psychology, and practical spirituality.
We talk candidly about illusions of success, the subtle ways systems train us to equate worth with productivity, and the courageous work of reclaiming sovereignty one decision at a time.
Across our conversation, we map the operating system beneath modern life: a conditioning that prizes obedience, punishes mistakes, and keeps us sprinting for external validation. Aaron’s new book, Before We Forget: The Guide to Personal and Collective Awakening, connects dots across science, psychology, and perennial wisdom to give listeners tangible tools—clear language, daily practices, and a sturdy lens—to step off the treadmill without losing ambition or discipline. If you’ve sensed something deeper calling beneath the noise, this is your invitation to listen, test, and trust your own experience.
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Transcript:
If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry, and wondering what your true purpose was all about. This podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham.
Heybringers, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to Release. He’s got a story to tell, let me tell you. Because when he said he came from Wall Street and he’d been there for 20 years, and that was his first act. And all of a sudden, something happened. Because he now wrote a book which will be released in October of this year. So I mean, seriously, like next week, probably this thing will release. And it’s titled Before We Forget, The Guide to Personal and Collective Awakening. Because as I was writing down the title of his book, I’m thinking, man, this is going to be a deep, transformative talk. So without further ado, Aaron, thank you so much for joining us on Release Out Reveal Purpose.
Thank you so much for having me, Sylvia. I’m excited to be here.
Where are you at right now?
I’m based out of um New York, New York, Manhattan. The belly of the beast. I should have known.
When you said Wall Street for 20 years, I think, yeah, really, he’s still there. But I’m going to ask because we never know. We never ever know. Sometimes turning points, we leave where we’re at and we move and we don’t look back. So what prompted you to write this book? Why leave Wall Street after 20 years?
You know, so I I think that, you know, I’m obviously asked this question a lot. I think that my answer is not going to be kind of uh as as textbook as you may have kind of heard on your um on your show with other guests. I I really feel like for my whole life, um I’ve kind of like had a sense that things didn’t exactly line up, right? Didn’t exactly make sense, or at least weren’t as coherent as they should have been with respect to um just the general schematic structure of of society, of the world, of economy, of um and and of various systems, whether they’re you know kind of educational systems or um you know, as as I’ve kind of as I’ve kind of looked more into things and kind of done my due diligence, if you will, um other kind of sacred institutions like like religious institutions, uh medical institutions, uh medical systems, things of that nature, it just kind of like didn’t add up for me. And I really in many ways I feel like I’ve been on this journey for you know a couple of decades, but I kind of had I kind of had like an acute, I think, moment uh or experience a couple of years ago where I kind of um realized how much trauma I had been putting myself through for my entire life, really, on the back of my job, which I really wasn’t kind of aligned with um and was always kind of fighting an internal force within, but kind of kept chugging along for you know for my family or for the better life. But in truth, and I think that you I’m sure you hear this a lot, uh these are not really what is being accomplished through material success or recognition or status or societal, you know, um influence, what whatever it is, it’s it’s a it’s a massive illusion. These are many illusions. And I kind of said, um I kind of you know, there were there were kind of many issues that I was facing individually, uh relationally, uh with work, and I just kind of said like screw this. Now now I now I want to give my real self a chance. Now I really want to explore who I am and I want to embrace that and not be afraid, not not not um not allow external systems, not allow external measurements to to guide and dictate my life anymore, my life force. You know, it was kind of like I I want to I want to evolve past that, I want I want to ascend past that. And it was really um it wasn’t really until I I I made that leap. I took that leap where this kind of um other world kind of unfolded in front of my eyes. And I really and the the fun thing is this, it’s like you know, I I have obviously um I know I’m I’m being long-winded here, but I’ve obviously I’ve obviously kind of like kept my ear to hearing other people about their stories of awakening and and um uh their experiences uh therein. And I always kind of like before I kind of had this this experience or took this leap, I was always kind of like skeptical, like, okay, like are these people like not mentally there? Are they like operating on a different plane? Like, I don’t get it. And then it wasn’t really until I kind of took that leap where I realized that you know they were the ones who were living in reality. They were the ones who were not bending to illusion, they were the ones who were being true to themselves and as a result seemed to be quote unquote off. But it’s it’s those people who are really the authentic ones. It’s those people I mean, I could say that I am now, but I’m saying with that vantage point, it was those people, right? It’s it’s it’s us who are saying, you know, we are allowing our our soul, uh our truth to resonate, to shine. So anyway, that that was a lot, but just to kind of I hope it gives you kind of a good a good framework and uh It does, it does totally.
Uh and I’ve actually experienced it myself because, like you, for decades, I didn’t think I belonged in pharmaceuticals, and that’s where I landed in my first act. And it was a tough corporate environment. And I was trying to explain this to my husband yesterday. I said, you know, they always don’t want the women to be masculine, but it’s hard not to be when you are surrounded by men, and then men like the influence they have over you. And if you want to be promoted, if you want for all the wrong reasons, really, because for me it was to gain the significance through my outside achievement. But we you and I now both know, because you went through something, and which I will touch on in a minute, um, what that was, because it’s significant, it’s a turning point, it’s a crossroads, if you will, that we face, and then it’s like, do we want to continue on this path that does not give us the happiness and the fulfillment and the wholeness that our soul is seeking? Because that internal battle that, or that inner battle that you were discussing is the ego and the soul battling it out. The ego is not the bad guy, it becomes the bad guy when your belief systems are healing from the fear side. If you are not feeling enough or not or or unworthy, and from that space is what you drives your performance, like it did in Wall Street, probably initially for you, then that is why your soul was so at unease, at unease, and it kept pulling you into the truth of who you were created to be, which is probably not the guy in Wall Street. How we landed there is because we grew up and we had certain experiences in our life, significant emotional events, we call them in coaching or neurolinguistic programming uses that term as well. And it starts us on a trajectory that’s not the trajectory of our divine purpose, and then something happened. So I do want to understand what happened. You mentioned it in your introduction. What was that moment?
It was, you know, it was just kind of it was a number of things really, and it was kind of like the you know, what was the straw that broke the camel’s back? I’m not sure. But in truth, I and you know, I entered the industry, I entered Wall Street full well knowing that I had to concede or I had to give up a part of myself. I had to sacrifice a part of myself. That part of myself I didn’t know what it was, but it but I knew that I was I knew that I was you know forcing myself to fit into a you know kind of like a word. I was kind of like trying to force a a round peg into a square hole, if you will, and and was willing to forego whatever result that was, right? As as a result. Now it was anything from, you know, uh well let me let me kind of back up. I’m gonna get kind of give you a long-winded response. I think that will lend itself to kind of what my general mission is, if you will. Um, you know, many of us are born into, or at least in the Western world, we’re we’re born into these societies, these systems, right? Where we are expected to do certain things, and all of us, especially in the education system, kind of were brought up and then we we’re kind of, you know, we we come out of it, whether it’s high school or university or higher levels of education, and we just kind of like assume that like this is the way it is, right? Nobody looks into why that is, right? Nobody, nobody looks deeper to try to understand, well, what are the what are the real driving forces here? What what are the things that are that are that are you know making me get up in the day, that are making me tie my shoes and go out there and and uh do the things that I’m doing, right? What what is the operating system? And this is where this is where my real kind of like path really throughout my life has has been focused on, but but um I’ve I’ve decided to kind of really discuss this openly and share my perspective with people, you know, in I I think in the past like year, year and a half or so, year, yeah, year, year and a half or so. Um and it it really starts with um our education system in the United States specifically and this and this Prussian model. And people don’t realize that when you’re taught, you know, a in a framework that forces obedience and docility, uh, as you grow up and you start wanting to accomplish, you start wanting um, you know, you start seeking external gratification, you start looking for uh sort of like value in all the wrong places, right? People think that this is again just the way it is, but in truth, it’s not just the way it is. It’s it’s a conditioning mechanism, right? So, you know, as adults, I don’t care how, you know, and these by the way, this is symptomatic of the most successful people, the people who own multiple businesses, multiple homes, multiple cars, they are victims of this indoctrination program. And this isn’t like this isn’t like a a dystopian conspiratorial discussion. This is this is just re real cause and effect conditioning, right? Where um, you know, adults, you know, that sort of equating their worth with productivity or credentials, you know, people fear mistakes because um that was equated with punishment. You know, we have everyone has to stay on this kind of like linear course, and that linear success is dictated by the amount of money that you make. I mean, so things like this, you know, where people focus on survival and competition. You, you know, you were you were speaking about the the egoic mind before, right? So it’s it’s important to understand that when this is your framework, when this is your foundation for your consciousness, right, it creates a certain identity, it creates a certain way of being and it shapes societal values, right? And then you get into kind of like this like chicken and egg chicken and egg discussion, you know, like are we embodying the consciousness of the systems or are we the ones who created them? But the the point is this the point is that like if we’re going to you know kind of like evolve, if we’re going to ascend past this current paradigm, it’s incumbent upon us to take a step back and and try to understand who we are, and that process must take place within within a certain lens that involves the societal indoctrination program. It must, because if you’re if you’re only looking to introspective sort of um findings or solely kind of like fully spiritual, if you will, ideas, meditative practices, things of that nature, like you’ll get to a certain point, but there’s a whole bedrock that you’re that you’re leaving out of the discussion. So a big part of what I’m trying to do is I’m trying to bring back the spirituality, uh rather rather the practicality of spirituality into the discussion. And these spiritual concepts and ideas are literally threaded throughout all of society, all of our systems, all of our ways of of identifying with ourselves, with with our with our uh you know, loved ones or relationships. You know, so so I I I kind of gave you a log-winded, maybe I didn’t even answer your question, but but the the the breaking point for me was when I said, you know what, I’ve made enough concessions. I have this awareness, and I don’t really want to know where this goes. Because I know that what’s gonna end up happening is I’m going to sever my most meaningful relationships. I know that I’m going to be, I’m going to be turning, um, you know, I’m going to be looking at things so myopically that I’m not even going to know who I am in in you know two, three, five years. And it wasn’t a trade I was willing to make. I said to myself, you know, like kind of enough is enough. And I’m not willing to to go down that road. And I I see it, I see it in I see that mentality blindly accepted as normal in in so many, you know, young people and college, you know, in young professionals, and they don’t understand where it’s coming from. They don’t understand that that you know so much of our societal consciousness is deeply sick, is deeply ill, and the trauma that it creates, it needs to be stopped. We are if we again, if we’re going to value humanity, value ourselves, we can’t let industrial logic uh dictate our consciousness. Pure new story.
I can totally agree. And one of the things that drives it, and you and I worked in big industries, right? Corporate greed is alive and well. And that piece right there, we need to remove, uproot completely, because it has driven too much of that drive that you were talking about, that drive to succeed. The definition of success when you work in these environments is the more you achieve, the more successful you are. And you and I both know that that’s a load of crap. The more you achieve, you may step into that spiritual realm because God always wants us to do the best with the skills He gave us, right? But not to the degree where you lose the joy and the fulfillment of life itself. And some of us work so hard to achieve that ideal, that perfection, if you will, that the more we try it and drive for it, the more unhappy we become. And it does project onto our relationships with others. It could bring marriages down completely because people are just more and more and more. They want more and more. And it was like, hey, aren’t we enough for you? Like, can’t you just enjoy life with us today? It’s a concept that um, even in the smallest of details, I will tell you. Like, my husband and I went out on a date on Saturday night, and I periodically set these things up because we’re very busy individuals, and we need to slow down and we need to kind of go back to being a couple. And we went out and saw this guy, Michael Jr., he does, he’s a comedian, and he does these marriage classes at churches. So that’s that was our date night. And we laughed so much that night. But coming out, we were needing to get back so that we could relieve our neighbors who had our 10-year-old daughter, like watching her. And my neighbor would say, Hey, don’t worry about it, we’re still up, no big deal. Like, you guys take your time. But my husband’s somebody that is always on the go. He’s an engineer, always having problems, always having to go, uh, always moving forward with the if he’s stuck in traffic, it just drives him crazy. And here’s where the perspectives are totally different. I’ve not like now I get stuck in traffic here, and you know what I think about? I don’t get frustrated. And do you know why? Because I look at what I I have instead of what I don’t have. I I have more time with my husband while we’re stuck in traffic. I get to hold his hand longer. I get to like really relish in the presence of that moment. And I don’t notice the traffic anymore. It doesn’t bother me. He was frantic, dude. Like he was just like doing all these crazy maneuvers to get out of the traffic, and I’m like, you’re missing out. But it’s that subconscious thing. We have to remember that the subconscious mind is extremely powerful. It’s the one that controls our feelings and controls technically our thoughts. Even though thoughts are the conscious ability of our mind, the reason why it controls our thoughts is because the belief systems are the ones that drive the thoughts and the beliefs are at the subconscious level. And they get formed early, early on in our life, right? And like you’re saying, all these systems that we go through as kids, the things we learn that our mind picks up on as we’re growing up, you know, from our parents, from our teachers, from the school system, from religious establishments, from TV, you know, all the cultural thing that we catch is in the back of our mind. And it is projected outward in the way we show up in the world. And then luckily for you and me, like I had a near-death experience in 2012, and that woke me up really fast. But um, and I actually talked to God about it the other day. I said, Do you know, did you have to make it hurt that bad? You know, and and he and his answer was like, you weren’t listening to me any other way. I had to use your choice of taking birth control pills to kind of wake you up a little bit, you know. Um, and for you, it was just you just got to that point where it was like, I am so done with this. Like, I just don’t want to be this person anymore because you had the epiphany. And once you see it, it’s really hard to unsee it and unfeel it. So I commend you for like letting go of that first act in Wall Street and saying, I don’t want this anymore. This is not who I am. And I am choosing to step into this purpose. And so, do you think you’re being an author is that your divine purpose, or or where do you see this going?
I mean, I all you know I’ll say, you know, in my book um titled Before We Forget, The Guide to Personal and Collective Awakening, uh, you know, one thing about my book that I think is important is I I’m really coming to, I really wrote this from a place not of um kind of just like regurgitation where I’m like citing things. I’m trying to really kind of like outline a framework for understanding through truth, knowledge, and then kind of like connecting dots for people. You know, for example, you talked, you you were mentioning a couple of really important uh kind of points with respect to you know balance in life, with respect to you know your relationship with your thoughts and your emotions, right? So, you know, I uh one one thing I talk about in my in my book is that you know, as uh all of life across the universe, everywhere, from you know, like plants to uh birds to human beings to the ebb and flow of of you know of the ocean, right? We that there is a there is a sacred pattern, there is a sacred polarity that exists. Some you know, some discuss it as the masculine, the feminine, but but this is kind of like the the divine operating system, right? And it requires this balance. And if we don’t, if we don’t honor that balance, we run into all these kind of like traumatic experiences, all these traumatic problems, right? And what we’ve done as as a civilization, as a society, through all these different reasons, you know, whether it whether it was unconsciously or consciously through um you know industrial uh desire, expansion, things of that nature, is we we’ve we’ve we’ve erected this synthetic overlay to override our divine kind of like code program that that source has structured so that life can thrive, right? So it’s kind of like we’re bearing the brunt of that, of this kind of like imbalance and equilibrium. And it manifests itself in many across many planes, whether it’s physical, ailments, emotional, spiritual, you know, whatever it is. But but and then it’s important to kind of like figure out how to rebalance. And in many ways, I think, again, you touched on this, a good practice is to understand your relationship with your thoughts and your emotions, where, and this is where a lot of kind of like the meditative and and Buddhist teachings come into play here, where you can identify or you can see that you are yourself separate from your thoughts and your emotions. You’re experiencing your thoughts and you’re experiencing your emotions, but you are not them. In fact, when you come to that realization, you gain back sovereignty. It’s an it’s an incredibly empowering experience. You know, like so where when you’re sitting in traffic and you’re saying, I’m going to flip out because I’m sitting in traffic, I need to keep moving. If you can step back and say, like, okay, look, you want to be feeling this, you want to be thinking this, like, well, what if I don’t think this? What if I don’t feel this? What if instead I think about how wonderful that tree looks? Or how great it is that I’m with this person in the car. Well, you are you are taking back control, right, of your life in that small moment, right? You are you are not letting the external world, the outside world, control you. You are now controlling your reality. Right. So it’s about it’s about in my book, I go through kind of like many iterative breakdowns and analyses, but also within within a framework of again understanding our place within the systems, within the greater cosmos, within the the natural order of things. And I think it’s important because if people aren’t grounded in reality or aren’t grounded in something true, unwavering, then you’re you’re just left grasping for straws, right? You don’t know what’s real, what’s not, what to what you can use to anchor yourself. And it’s a big part of of my book is trying to give people the tools to say, okay, like what this guy’s saying is real. It makes sense. I can grab onto it. I don’t have to depend on faith. I don’t have to depend on hearsay. I can look at it and say, okay, this makes sense because you know I’m a logical person, uh, science backs it up, psychology backs it up, rational thought backs, you know, things like that. So it’s it’s that’s kind of like a big part of what I’m trying to do in uh in my book. And it’s with the accumulation of these little kind of like I call them breadcrumbs, as you kind of like compile them and add them up, you start developing a real strong foundation where you can jump into that void and say, I’m okay with being who I am because I know, again, this is real, those are illusions. I I know that that’s not what’s important. This really is what should be important, right? So it’s it’s kind of like it’s hard to get there unless you have the right foundations, is kind of like the it’s kind of like the the main message, the main message here.
But um So are you anchoring yourself in logic?
Is that what I I’m anchoring myself in myself in in you know some fundamental tenets that that are that are rooted in uh that are rooted and substantiated across many, you know, many disciplines, uh academically, psychology, psychologically, spiritual, you know, origin, really origin foundations of of religious structures, you know, really I’ve really gone deep and kind of like open the kimono to the things that we take to be divine. I think that we in many ways we uh misunderstand because we inherit these belief systems and don’t question them. And it’s which one of the biggest mistakes that we make, right? Where we just kind of either don’t have time, don’t care, don’t think it’s important, because what’s important is success, is external gratification, is is being in the best physical shape possible, is you know, making sure that this person likes us, all the while what we’re doing is we’re creating just multiple hurdles for us to come back to a place of equilibrium, of balance, of right relationship with ourselves and the world around us. So it’s that that’s kind of what the that’s kind of what I’m what I’m anchoring on.
Um every everybody has their anchor and and they’re different, and that’s okay. Like in my case, the anchoring is in my faith because it has sustained me through the darkest of chapters. The the latest dark chapter was the passing of my father last year. And when he received his terminal diagnosis, I knew it was coming to an end. He had um a brain tumor that had developed because of his exposure to Agent Orange when he was in Vietnam, the surgeon, and when he had gotten uh walked into the visa office, the first question they asked him was, Are you willing to fight for Vietnam? And it was 1967, and he was finishing his medical training in the United States. And uh he said he knew intuitively he needed to say yes, right? And so he said it, married my mother in Monterrey, Mexico, and then flew back to Chicago and started his life and his residency there. And about a year and a half later, he was drafted. But every time he opened up an American soldier’s body, and plus they were bombed like every night. All those guys ended up with brain tumors and Parkinson’s disease, right? And I remember people asking me, like, don’t you blame God for that? And I said, No, my father had free will, he made a choice, and we actually asked Dad, like, would you do it all over again? Knowing now what happened, would you do it? And he said, Yes, because you guys had the best education and I wanted to provide that for my family. And he had like this purpose in life, and he fulfilled it beautifully, right? But when he got the terminal diagnosis, that flew like it’s hard, it’s a it’s a dark chapter, and you know it’s coming. And it was one of my biggest fears was losing a parent, right? My mom’s still alive, thank God. And I just started to I never understood the concept of my faith sustains me. I was like, what is that about? And it wasn’t until I had to surrender my grief, anticipatory grief to God every single day that I understood what that meant. And he took me down this path because he knew he was equipping me for what was going to come next. Because that’s what my book, In Faith I Thrive, Finding Joy Through God’s Master Plan, kind of guides people on. It’s the lessons that we learn uh through these dark chapters, because we don’t go through it just because there’s always a purpose and he always uses it for his glory. And and so I just started to surrender every day because I surrendered when I had six doctors in my hospital room basically say I had an 80% chance of dying. I surrendered to him. That was my first instance uh of surrendering to Christ and just saying, okay, I guess you’re in control because clearly the medical community is not. They’re they’re not confident I’m gonna survive the night. And it was Easter weekend of 2012. It was a significant weekend in the Christian world, in the Catholic world, because it’s the three days, right, of before he gets resurrected. And on Easter Sunday morning, I received my third miracle within 72 hours. So it was really hard for me to deny, you know, that there was somebody outside of me, you know, from from beyond the medical community. And I come from an entire medical family. So really me, I’ve been in that world, and then I worked in pharmaceuticals. So I’ve been in all these worlds, and what I found to be true was that my faith truly sustained me because the time came when he passed away, and at his celebration of life, people were like crying, and I was crying too, don’t get me wrong, I was, but I was at peace, Aaron. And that peace was uh was not something that I could do on my own. As human being, as human beings, we think we can, right? We we can do this on our own, but when we face like major, and I mean major chapters, I was able to say my faith actually sustained me. People were coming up to me and going, You look like you’re at peace. And I said, Well, my father graduated into heaven. And they’re like, What? And I’m like, Yeah, well, think about it. You know, the man lived a really good, integral life. Like he made all the right choices when when he had difficult choices, even facing his death, you know, someone who truly wanted to live and was very authentic in the way he showed up, right? He was one of those off people you were describing early on. And my mother was the same way, and I was a child like that. That people were like, You’re weird, you know. But the thing was, I I had a different consciousness from the time I was a child. Like you, I I saw things differently, and I I never quite fit into the system. Um, and and so that’s where I’m anchored and and the journey I take people on in faith. I thought, because I tried it on my own. I tried it with fear-based beliefs. I I tried it with that on my side, and it didn’t work out. I landed in joy, and then and then from joy, it was a much easier step from joy into trusting in God’s sovereignty into something like that.
But I think I think that I think that what you know, I don’t think that what you’re saying is is in contrast to kind of like what my message is. I think that what happens is just by by virtue of kind of like language, I think that we I think that the nomenclature is really where the is where the the difference is, which really isn’t a difference at all, right? It’s it’s it’s kind of like you you’ve you’re you’re framing and you’re digesting your experience and your and your understanding within a certain lens, right? And it’s it’s my belief that you know the teachings of Jesus, for example, are are true teachings, are things worth worth listening to. It’s just that I have a very hard time getting over the structure and origin story and real world, you know, kind of like manifestation of these religious orders and how they how they were vampiric and how they literally were just looking to you know take over power and control, especially with the Catholic Church, right? Like so for me, I I feel like in many ways the institutions obfuscated the mess you know Jesus’ message, but but I feel like you know the connection you know with with faith, you know, again, words like faith, like I think we both understand and know that there is a there is a deeper story here, that there is a deeper connection to something, that there is something that we are all a part of, right? And uh it’s just about kind of again the the background through which we can understand and we can digest these things personally. Um so I think that it’s important to, I don’t think that we should be getting bogged down on like words like faith or belief or understanding or you know, because I think that they’re all kind of part of the same story. It’s just about how we’re all subject, we’re all subject to our own our own lens or to our own minds, right? So um, but but yeah, I mean what that story makes complete sense to me from uh from a um Yeah.
And I get what you’re saying about religion, and that’s where people really turn away from God Himself because of religion, of and I’m totally in agreement with you. The Catholic Church, I hailed from the Catholic side of things because we’re Mexican, right? And so there’s very few religions. That was a primary one in those countries. I never subscribed to going through a priest to talk to God, for example. I’m like, why? Why should I do that? And people are like, no, because you have to. And I’m like, I don’t have to, I can talk directly to the guy. Believe me, I can and I will. And so I I kind of shied away from it. And then I got divorced. My very first husband asked for a divorce, and so I ended up in that position, and I just didn’t feel like I fit in. How can you turn away a child of God just because of a separation? What if, what if what they didn’t know was as I was walking down the aisle, the Holy Spirit’s saying, Don’t do it. This is not for you. And what did I do? Based on my fear, my ego-minded fear, I walked down the aisle because my father had already spent a bunch of money on the wedding. And that’s why I do it. And I mean, so it’s all these crazy things that we think are like, oh well, this is what I’m supposed to do. No, not really. And God doesn’t want that for you.
That’s and that’s the problem. That’s the problem. When you when you give up, right, when you give up autonomy, sovereignty, when you submit to something that you think you’re supposed to, I mean, that this is this is the inherent problem. But but when you’re looking at it, when you’re looking at it the right way, in my opinion, it I mean, what a what a healthier way, what a healthier relationship that you have with with God or source or Jesus, whatever, you know, however you want to digest it. I mean, that’s to me, that’s how it should be, right? I mean, that’s that’s what it’s all about. If it’s if that’s not what it’s about, then I don’t want any part of it.
Yeah, like like Jesus actually did not like the religious order of his time. He called them hypocrites. And like, you guys are a bunch of hypocrites. You love your power. You’re always telling people what they can and can’t do, and you do it anyway. So, excuse me, like that whole thing of like you can’t heal anybody on the Sabbath, you do it all the time. Why? So now you’re gonna like crucify me because I’m doing it on the Sabbath. Irrational. So it’s irrational, and his kingdom was upside down to what the religious orders of the time. So I always remind people of that. It’s like do not blame him for what the religion is telling you.
They’re very different.
That’s not that is not him, that is not Christ. If you look at scripture, if you look at the things they’ve actually discovered, this is where we had a physicist, uh, I mean, so this guy’s a man of science, come to the church, and he said, My whole purpose on earth was to disprove that the Bible and the creation story was real. That was my whole goal. He goes, and I could not prove it because there was so much evidence, scientific evidence. And I thought that was interesting. There’s a really good book out there that I think that I think would be uh important for people that are listening to the podcast know about. It’s John Burke’s um book. It’s called Imagine Heaven, and then there was a follow-up to that. These are near death experiences. So these are people that clinically died and went to heaven, and these are people of all religions, all of them, Buddhists, atheists, you name it. They’re all on there, and they followed these people for 25 years, and they created this like this almost like a clinical study. Like they were watching and looking at like what were the variables, what were the similarities between their um testimonies? And what they found was that all the people described the exact same thing, regardless of their background, cultural background, and religious background. And it was interesting, chapter two, it’s titled Um The Science, or like something along the lines of um science, uh, something to do with science. Like that it like there’s evidence to prove that that Jesus exists, something along those lines. And I was like, okay, I’m intrigued now. Because my boy was, you know, somebody young people are always exploring. They’re always exploring, they want to know, they want to find out. But actually nowadays, the young people are very much into Jesus’ teachings, which is interesting because you were saying that right now they’re wanting to get indoctrined, you know, kind of like go through the systems and not believe. I think you have a 30% majority, like, but you also have a 70% that are wanting more because they’re seeing things in life that they don’t agree with.
I don’t think they want to go through this. I think they have to, I think they know that they have to. I mean, like if you want to get a job, if you want credentials, you have to go through the system. But you’re right, people, people, young people are are are way more awake. They’re way more awake and they’re looking for for deeper meaning. And by the way, talking about the overlap with Jesus, uh, Jesus’ teachings are fully aligned with with teachings of Buddha, through the teachings of the Eastern philosophies. I mean, they are they are all one and the same. This is a common thread throughout throughout the you know the esoteric, I mean the Gnostic teachings. I mean, the the this is this is the real spirituality. So I want to be I want to be.
I liked him because I was like he he hung out with uh with uh misfits of his time. I loved him. I would have hung out with them. I would have been one of the females like following him around. But um any words of encouragement for those that want to step out of this system?
Yeah, I mean my words for encouragement are you know, I’ve got many words of encouragement, but I would say that you know you are far more powerful than you think you are, um, that you have far more sovereignty and tools at your disposal than you think you do, that they’ve just kind of been you know, they’ve been buried beneath rubble, you know, they’re they’re hiding behind veils of illusion, and that um, you know, with the right attention, with the right consciousness, uh you have the ability to live a to live a a a deeper, a wholer life and and a life that you know you deserve and everybody deserves to live. Um that’s it’s a big statement, but it’s but it’s the truth.
Okay. Awesome.
And if I wanted to buy your book, when is it released? And how do I get a hold of it?
Yeah, so it’s it’s being released globally on the 14th of October. Uh, it’s gonna be on Amazon, it’s gonna be there’ll be a global distribution through I think all English speaking countries. It’ll be in like bookstores anywhere from you know Target, Borders, Barnes and Nobles, what what have you. Um so but I but I believe for I’ll in talking to my publisher, I believe that Amazon’s like the is that that’s the primary hub, I think, for most people. And then there’ll there’ll be an audiobook released um I think probably the first week of November. Oh, cool. Did you narrate it yourself or did you have somebody else do it? So it’s funny. So that we I I went back and forth on it. I’m like, do is it important for me to to narrate it? And like, well, you have to have a certain certain formatting with the sound. That’s kind of like I’ll just have your person do it. I I don’t wanna I don’t wanna I don’t wanna do this whole book and then have to make changes if like the audio didn’t come in the right way, I didn’t edit. So I’m just letting them do it. So I’ll I’ll find somebody that sounds that sounds uh like me.
Yes, we’re from New York now, New York City. Exactly because you’ve got to have the accent because you know Wall Street and everything believable, right? But I I really appreciate your time today, Aaron. Thank you so much for joining us on the least out reveal purpose and for the listeners. You know how I always sign off. Remember Matthew 5.14 to all these people like because you are a big bright light in this world and they need you, they need you to shine it brightly and to have the courage to step into it like Aaron did, and just kind of let go of these systems and like and really step into an anchor in truth. And what is that truth for you and what identity uh is that going to look like?
So have a wonderful week, stay safe, love y’all. Bye now.
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