Some wounds don’t start with fear. They start with the moment you realize you crossed a line, followed an order, couldn’t stop what happened, or lived through something that still feels unforgivable. That’s the heart of “moral injury,” and it’s why I invited Navy chaplain Larry Brant onto the show. Larry joined the Navy at 45, deployed with Marines in Afghanistan, and later served as an ICU chaplain during the height of COVID. Across war zones and hospital rooms, he saw the same pattern: people doing their best in impossible conditions, then carrying crushing guilt and shame in silence.
Larry breaks down the difference between PTSD and moral injury in plain language, including why they often coexist and why moral injury can make someone believe they are unlovable, beyond forgiveness, or even “contagious” to the people they care about. We talk about what actually begins the healing process: a safe, no-judgment space where someone can tell their story in pieces, be met with honor, and slowly reconnect to community.
We also get practical. Larry shares how he partnered with mental health professionals and adapted a VA model into an eight-week program focused on spiritual strength, self-forgiveness, forgiving others, and rebuilding identity. One of the most powerful tools is a two-way prayer journal that helps people step out of self-condemnation and begin seeing themselves through God’s eyes again. You’ll also hear a deeply moving redemption story about a veteran who finally chose to tell his wife the truth after twenty years of fear and distance.
If you care about veterans, first responders, medical professionals, or anyone wrestling with shame after hard choices, this conversation offers language, hope, and next steps. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find these stories of restoration.
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If you’ve ever struggled with fear, doubt, or worry and wondering what your true purpose was all about, then this podcast is for you. In this show, your host, Sylvia Warsham, will interview elite experts and ordinary people that have created extraordinary lives. So here’s your host, Sylvia Warsham. I’ve still got a lot of fun left. Hey Lightbringers, it’s Sylvia Warsham. Welcome to Release. And today is Larry Brent. And he is a chaplain actually for the Navy. He joined at 45. And what proceeded was a full transformation. Now he is someone that just wrote a book called Restoring the Broken. And in that book, he is talking about moral injury. I’ve never heard of this. And so when he said, Well, what do you, you know, what do you think I should talk about? And I said, I think you should talk about this because I’ve number one, I’ve never heard of it. Number two, it’s a form of PTSD where you’re you’re causing damage to someone that completely devastates your life on it. So without further ado, Larry, thank you so much for joining us on Released Out Reveal Purpose. Well, it’s my pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me on. Thank you for being on. And do kind of share with us that amazing story of transformation. What got you to the place where you felt your soul being pulled to write this book
to share this message with the world? Uh, thank you. Uh well, really, two big things that that happened. The first was just as you had said, I joined the Navy at 45. My wife likes to say we’re living my midlife crisis. Uh, she will tell people we couldn’t afford a convertible. He didn’t want to be trained by a new wife, so I gave him permission to run off and join the Navy, and I did. Uh, but when I felt God’s call to do that, I joined the Navy. The first thing they did was send me to the Marine Corps because the detailer, the man who uh or the person who gives us our jobs, he said, if I send you to the Marines, son, but any older, they’ll just kill you. And I was like, okay. Um, and so I went with the Marines, uh, went to 2nd Marine Division, and that was you know 2010, 2009. Uh, everything was very hot in Iraq and Afghanistan, and sure enough, within a year I found myself um in Hellman Province, Afghanistan, with a Marine Corps infantry battalion. And as I traveled about the battle space, uh, I was outside of the wire five days a week. If you’re not familiar with that phrase, um, if you’re inside the wire, that means you’re in a relatively protected area. Um, and so I would be on our combat outpost on the weekends uh doing counseling and doing worship services. But Monday through Friday, uh I was traveling the different battle positions from our different rifle companies, um, being exposed to fire, going from place to place, counseling the Marines in their fire holes and battle positions, um, having small worship services in different compounds and things like that, but also talking, we were in obviously a very kinetic environment, and talking with the Marines while they lost friends and loved ones, and then while they were taking the lives of others, which um no matter uh what how hardcore you may think of yourself, taking the life of someone who is created in the image of God wears at your soul. And then, you know, listening to the stories of Marines, sailors, Coast Guardsmen, because Navy chaplains work with all three, uh, you know, hearing those stories over time, and then came
COVID. And so I was chosen for an education program called clinical pastoral education. So if a chaplain’s gonna work in a hospital, he has to have so many units of what we call CPE. And so I got chosen for the Navy CPE program in San Diego, and so I was the ICU chaplain for Naval Hospital San Diego at the very height of COVID. And uh honest and truly, I saw more death there than I saw in Afghanistan. We were losing uh one to two people a day in the ICU from COVID, and the the medical providers were just feeling absolutely helpless, questioning their own ability to heal. Um sometimes we would have uh a father pass, like in November, dealing with the adult children and the spouse, and then in January the spouse died of COVID. And so seeing all of those um same folks again, and that scenario played out more than once uh while I was there, and then my second residency, uh, because in that program you do two residencies, you do one with the naval hospital, and then you do one with the VA. And the VA sent me to uh what’s called a PTSD domiciliary, and it’s basically they take homeless veterans off the streets of San Diego and sometimes from other locations as well. They live at the
facility for six months, and we work with them, uh, address their issues of PTSD, moral injury, drug addiction, help them get clean, help them stay clean. It’s absolutely amazing. Then they help them find jobs and housing so that they don’t go back on the streets, and they’ve got about an 85% success rate, which is phenomenal. But as we are working with those veterans, hearing their stories of PTSD, uh reflecting on my own, because I have PTSD as well from my combat experience, um, but also hearing their stories of moral injury, um things that they have done that they just that just tore and shattered at their soul. And I thought we need to be doing more about this, and and quite frankly, the church needs to partner and be doing more about this. And so then after I got out of that program, um my payback tour was in the beautiful desert oasis of 29 Palms, California. You know, the Navy uh, in all of its irony, uh sends me to the middle of the Mojave Desert to work with Marines again. Um, and so I was the chaplain for the naval hospital here. And I I went to my leadership and I just simply asked the question why are we waiting until these guys are and gals are homeless on the streets before we’re doing something like this? So I I took some things that I used at the ex the Aspire Center in San Diego, that PTSD domiciliary, and we uh we started an eight-week course here called Building Spiritual Strength, which is something the VA uses, but I tweaked it for active duty with their permission, and started doing it here because my thinking is if we do it now while they’re here, we could save some careers, we could save some marriages, we might could even save some lives. And we started doing that here with with great success. Um, so much so that uh we were the only place where it was being done with active duty in 2022. Now there’s over fifty places uh across um active duty military where this is being done. I’m not saying mine was key, but they used the success that we had and really uh helped doing it in other places and to hear some of the stories of before and after of these veterans, uh active duty, and we even allowed uh some of our retirees uh who were uh active on base to take part. And uh the stories of transformation are are just amazing how how uh God came in uh through this and just completely worked with these guys and gals and and changed their lives, and then I was doing this and working on my on my doctorate. Um, that kind of led to the writing of the book. So, first of all, amazing story you just shared. I thank you so much for your service. Thank you for being there for those veterans, especially calling you know the government into kind of action to do more for their veterans because they
really don’t. They send these guys out and and then they don’t want to deal with the consequences of sending them out. And and the consequences are that they get addicted because of the horrors they see. I mean, they get their friends blown up right in front of them at times, and if not worse, my father was a veteran in Vietnam. He came to this country in 1967, and the first question they asked him at the visa office is, Are you willing to fight in Vietnam? And he knew that intuitively, if he said no, they were gonna deny the visa. And see, and they didn’t want him as a soldier, they wanted him because of his special skill set. He was a surgeon, and so they wanted him to save American soldiers’ lives, which he did, but not without getting the you know, like the consequences of that choice. And and his consequence came in 2001 when he just happened to be walking in his clinic and they were testing out the new MRI machines, and there was a unit, and they just said, Hey, Dr. Vlogos, can you be the guinea pig to test this machine out? And he agreed, and they do the MRI of his brain, and they find a brain tumor. Oh wow, and it had been there for years, and what they determined when they removed the brain tumor was that it had been due to the exposure of Agent Orange in Vietnam. Because all those guys in 1967 through 69 ended up either with menjomas or Parkinson’s disease because of Agent Orange exposure. And so I want this is near and dear to my heart. Let me just say this. The listeners on the podcast know why. Uh, simply because now we’re coming on the second year anniversary of my father’s passing due to the tumor that eventually took his life because it came back, it kept coming back aggressively year after year, no matter how much gamma radiation they they did, they removed it. I mean, it was 21 years of this, you know, from like 2001 until he passed away. And uh, or I rather 2003 until 2024 when he passed away. So, for the listeners, I want you, um, Larry, if you can break this up for us, the definition of what moral injury is,
so that we can dive a little bit deeper into the subject. I’d be happy to. So, most people know um the definition of PTSD, which is fear-based trauma. Something happens to you and it traumatizes you, causes you to be paranoid, um, maybe hyper-vigilant, um, and and just really always kind of on the edge of your seat, you know, as I mentioned earlier. That’s something I have uh from my combat experience in Afghanistan. Um, but moral injury is kind of like the evil twin or the flip side, in that that is something that we do uh many times under the order of someone in authority over us or something we fail to prevent, and the result of which just absolutely shatters our soul. It breaks us emotionally, mentally, and especially spiritually, to where the individual just absolutely becomes consumed with guilt and shame, no longer believes that they are lovable by family, friends, even God, and no longer believes that they are forgivable. They feel like that they have done something that maybe even God could not forgive. Um and uh w which is not true, but in in their state of mind, that’s what they come to believe. And they will disengage themselves from friends, from family, from their faith, um, quite often not just because um of fear or whatever uh for themselves, they actually come to believe that they have been corrupted, that they are maybe touched by evil, and they’re afraid that if they continue to stay around their friends and family, they’ll infect them as well. Wow that time and time again, I uh you know, one retiree that went through our group here, um, he was afraid to share too much with his wife and with his children because he was afraid what he did on deployment would infect them. That devastates me to hear that. It does because a lot of these guys kill themselves. I mean, the so what is the suicide rate from this moral injury do you do you gather? They don’t really know, but if I were to hazard a guess, you know, the what we’re hearing, you know, what what we hear is that you know, the 22 a day uh of veterans who who suicide, I would be willing to bet the vast majority of those not only have PTSD, but have moral injury as well, because both can coexist. Okay. You’ve got that fear-based trauma where you’re scared, and sometimes that fear causes you to react in a way that violates everything you believe in, and then so then you you not only have PTSD from the fear-based trauma, you now have moral injury because how you reacted in the moment uh out of that fear went against everything you believe in, and now as you’re sitting back and reflecting on it, you’re thinking of yourself as a monster. Yeah, yeah, and I can see that about about moral injury. So let’s let’s pick it up even more for the listeners, okay? I want you to how do you begin the work of transformation for these soldiers, for these individuals that are in this dark hole? What are what is the initial step? And then
what are the additional steps that build on that step, if you will? Well, really the initial step is and and this is where the church can place such a big key factor uh once the ministry leaders are educated. And that is just simply finding a safe place for these folks to tell their story with no judgment whatsoever. Because that’s their fe that their biggest fear is if I tell my story you can’t possibly look at me the same way again. You will only see the monster. And i i if we can give them that safe place to begin telling their story, because it’ll come out at first in bits and pieces as they test us to see how we react. But then as we react with honor and with listening, then they’ll share more and more and more and more. And that continues, that begins to unburden their soul, and then uh as they begin to share, and they find um community and the realization that they are not alone in how they’re feeling that feeling of being a monster becomes less because they realize there’s other people that feel exactly how I do. You know, uh, and it doesn’t have to be just the military that does this. We see moral injury, we or we have seen moral injury not only in veterans, in medical providers, just as I talked about during COVID, in first responders, where something happens in that emergency situation and it goes badly, and then they begin to second guess themselves and think that you know they’re no longer valid in what they do. We’ve even seen it in the corporate world where the corporation will say, We know that you’re supposed to be doing an independent study, but the independent study better say this if you want to keep your job. And the person ends up, in order to provide for their family, lying about everything because this is what the corporation says they have to do in order to answer to their shareholders. Um I I have a friend who used to be in an environment like that, and she ultimately she had to quit because she said it was either leave the corporation or totally sell my soul. Wow. Well, and it it I’ve seen that happen. I came from the corporate environment. I’ve seen I’ve seen things that I wish I hadn’t seen. Let’s put it that way. And that’s why I left the corporate environment after I received three miracles in 72 hours in 2012. And it isn’t immediate because to strip yourself out of that identity takes some time and it takes a lot of grace because changes, it’s it’s an opportunity that God gives us to shift our lens, to shift our the direction of our life so that we can start moving towards our divine calling and divine identity, you know, who he says we are versus what the world tells us we are and our minds, right? Because the enemy, um the fighting of lies, is gonna twist all those thoughts in your head. Yes. And that’s what a lot of this is where the church can also, I’m sure, support these soldiers in that these are lies, you know. There’s this psychology perspective of it. We know that the subconscious mind is very powerful and it’s going to believe it as true if it’s an overwhelming, you know, repetitive thought. But on the flip side, on the spiritual side of things, is taking scripture and the word of God and kind of reframing that thought. And is that how you guys are working with these soldiers to kind of shift that mindset? That is exactly how we’re doing it. And uh, I thank you for bringing up the mental health professionals because uh it’s not just me leading this group. Uh, I partner with a mental health professional so that we actually, in in each session, we’re looking at things from a spiritual perspective, but also from that mental health and psychological perspective as well. Um and and and that way they’re seeing the clinical and the spiritual, and they’re seeing that complement each other instead of ripping each other apart. Yes. And you’re also inviting God into the mix. Because you see, here’s the part that most humans forget. You and I don’t, because we work in this, but a lot of people do forget. We’re not called to transform the hearts of individuals. That’s God’s role. What we’re called to do is to bring them to that space where then where God can then reveal himself through his word. It’s like presenting the word of God and then telling the soldier or the patient, what does that mean for you? Because he’s going to reveal something to you specifically, and only God knows your heart. We don’t. He sees everything. That’s why we want to invite that into the mix. Because his understanding, his knowledge of your everything that you’ve gone through and the people that you affected, he sees it all. So he’s in the best position to help you navigate out of this darkness that you currently find yourself in, in collaboration with you and with the psychologist. That’s exactly right. And one key thing that we use, um, you know, none of this was my idea, uh, but the the program that the VA put
together was actually written by a psychologist and a chaplain. Um, and we just tweaked it for active duty. But one of the activities that they have, because we give homework every week, uh, and uh one of the things we do is we call it it we call it a two-way prayer journal. Uh because when you’re in the midst of moral injury, all you can focus on is what you have done. And and that that’s that becomes your entire world. And so with the two-way prayer journal, what they have to do is they have to write down every day a prayer to God. How they’re feeling, what’s going on through their mind, maybe what is something that has happened that day. Um that’s the first part of the prayer journal. The second part is how do you believe God would answer you? Because this gets them out of themselves and gets them the 20,000-foot view, and and we it helps them maybe to look at themselves through God’s eyes. Which and that and that that actually, I’m sorry, let me just interject really quickly. That actually leads to the concept of self-love. Yeah, exactly. That is the definition of self-love. When you can love yourself and see yourself the way that God sees and loves you, that’s that’s really where the transformation begins. That’s where you start shifting out of that old identity that just Paul tells us to crucify, right? You gotta crucify that. You can’t bring it with you, not when you accept Him as Christ being our Savior. Once you accept that, you’re basically saying goodbye to that old way of believing and thinking and being, right? Because now you’re embodying this new identity in him. Who does he say you are? You know what you’ve done. That’s not who that’s not who you are. That’s just what you’ve done. It’s the same thing when you do something good. It’s great, but it’s not who you are. That’s why at the beginning of the podcast, I always explain to the people I’m bringing on, I’m not talking about your achievements because that’s not who you are. That’s who the world has told you you are. But that’s not who God says you are. Who God says you are is who He created you to be without all these layers. We put on layers with every experience that we have in life. And if we’re not careful, if we don’t reflect the things that this prayer is teaching your soldiers, then we fall back into old ways of being because it’s easy. Yeah. And the enemy is right there to just twist everything around in our head. But I did interrupt you. So you said that we were talking like towards self-love. If you could see yourself the way that God sees you, and then what were you gonna say? You know, at the next session, we’ll say, What has God taught you through your two-way journal this week? And inevitably somebody will read a portion of what they wrote, and then they will read how they believe God would have answered them back. Wow. And then the the other people in the group will share uh from their perspective what they how they think God or their higher power would have would have done that. Uh, and it ends up becoming just a reaffirmation of that of that God loves them unconditionally concept, uh, which is we know to be absolutely true. And then after you hear this for eight weeks, plus the topics that we go through, we talk about forgiving others, we talk about self-forgiveness, we talk about why does God allow evil in the world? Um, so many things. And then at the end of that time, we also talk about uh rededicating yourself to God. Uh, an example in the old from the old testament is Numbers 31, you know, where God told the Israelites to go and defeat the Midianites, using their women to try to tempt Israel to uh to fall away from God. And so uh they do this and they completely devastate the Midianites, and then as they’re coming back to camp, Moses says, Whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute here. You guys are not coming straight back into the camp. You need to stay out of the camp for seven days, and during these seven days, you reflect on what has just happened, and you need to not once but twice rededicate yourself to God and rededicate everything you used in the battle, or what you may have captured or taken in the battle has to be dedicated to God as well. And it reminds them that even though God Himself may send us to war, war is messy. And um and so there needs to be careful reflection, there needs to be rededication, there needs to be some type of ritual that brings your mindset back to the spiritual and God’s love and God’s forgiveness. Wow, that is powerful, and I can see why you want pastors and churches to be involved because the how many veterans are they’re everywhere. And if we can start addressing it when they come back instead of until they become homeless, which I’m in total agreement with you. Like rather than waiting until disaster strikes, why not be preemptive, right? Like really start to address it, knowing full well what those consequences are. We’ve already lived those consequences, we should have already learned the lesson that that comes with with our veterans. So, that being said, how are you before we even get to the final portion of what I want to ask? I do want to ask what has been the most beautiful redemptive story to date that you’ve
witnessed. Got a few, but I’ll choose one. Uh, we had one gentleman who was um retiree, uh, and he he worked here on base in in one of the one of the offices because the base that I’m on, we’re a training base out in the middle of the Mojave Desert. And so we will have about 50,000 Marine sailors and foreign military a year come through our base being trained in desert warfare and different things like that. And so he was involved in in the planning of that, uh, retired as a gunnery sergeant from the Marine Corps, um, but was Mr. Perpetual Frown. You know, he he always had that frown, he talked more in grunts than he did pretty much in anything else. Um, and one of our chaplains here was uh we call visiting the spaces that everybody works in, we call it deck plating, as a reminder of walking about Navy ships. And so one of our chaplains was deck plating through that office space one day and saw him working and just said, you know, a friend of mine’s uh got this course, this eight-week course. I think you could benefit from it. And and so he talked him into coming that first night, and he came, and uh my co-leader and I, we were like, I’m not sure this guy’s gonna come back, because he came back, he grunted, he frowned, uh, but he did share a very little initial bit about his story, and was supported by the other people who were there. And then we gave him his workbook, and we were taking like my co-leader and I we were taking bets as to whether or not he’d be back the next week. What we didn’t know that was so cool was that first night really affected him, and so he uh uh he was going to uh this VA hospital that’s about an hour and a half away once a week for uh mental health counseling for his PTSD, and he took the workbook that we gave him to his counselor, and then what she did was brilliant. She looked over what we were going to be doing over the next eight weeks, and she directed her sessions with him so that they would complement what we talked about. And let me tell you, that really was key. And so every week he got more and more involved and he he talked more and more, he reconnected with the faith of his childhood. Because when he walked in the door, he didn’t believe God existed because of everything that had happened. But by the end of the time, he had reconnected with his faith, and then on our very last session he said, I’ve made a decision. And we were like, Okay. And he said, I’ve decided that I need to tell my wife everything. It had been twenty years since he had deployed and in those twenty years he had kept his wife at an arm’s distance because he was terrified that if she knew everything, she would leave him in a heartbeat and think of him as a monster and and and take their children. He lived in terror of that. Oh my heart breaks. Because nobody should have to live like that. I agree because it wasn’t like he chose, I mean, he it was his job, you know, and they and they force you, you know, like to do this, or you don’t get a paycheck and you can’t, you know, help your children out. Well, maybe it’s tough. It is tough. And so I agree, like, wow, what a beautiful story. Thank you so much for sharing that, Larry.
How are you getting in contact with churches? How is this program being delivered or presented to them? Or are you guys planning to do like a 501c3? How does how do you envision this happening? Um, so what we’re doing right now, the the book that I wrote, Restoring the Broken, is on Amazon. Uh, and what I wanted to do was I wanted to write something. It’s basically my doctoral dissertation with all of the academic language taken out. I tried to make it very straightforward. And you can get it, and everything you need to do is in there. Uh, there’s even in one of the chapters, there’s a nine, there’s the outline for a 90-minute and half-day training session for um people in your church or for ministry leaders to understand moral injury and how to talk to and listen to people. Um because my thinking was I don’t want to create something where they pay me tons of money to try and come out and do something, and I’m the bottleneck. I wanted to create something where they could read this book and from using just what’s in the book, train others and better understand how to minister to those with PTSD and moral injury. And so maybe the five I can’t remember 501c3, maybe that will come later. Um, actually, I’ve never thought about it until you said something. Um, but that’s what we’re doing now, and then I’m just encouraging people and doing different training sessions for those who want me to do that. Um, these podcast interviews are also getting some marketing out there for the book and for the idea of moral injury, because like I said, it’s the first I’ve ever heard of it, and I’ve done three or four interviews about veteran and veteran resources because it is something that is so near and dear to my heart. And my I mean, like I’m always the first person to want to help a veteran out simply because I was on the receiving end of that sacrifice, and I know what that feels like for those families and for the soldier himself, because I I saw what it did to my father and my mother. And while it is beautiful to be there as a surgeon and to have saved so many lives, it came at a very hefty cost. Oh, I’m sure. Very, very hefty cost um because we lost my father prematurely due to the tumor, and he his professional life got cut short, and he was a phenomenal urologist. He was much needed in
the area he was in, but he had to step down because the tumor prevented that. So um, any last words of encouragement, Larry, that you want to leave our listeners with? And how can we contact you? We want to purchase your book. Well, as I said, the book is on Amazon. There is a website, it’s called restoring the broken.com, and there’s a dash in between each word. So restoring dash the dash broken.com. Or you can email me at chapsbrand at yahoo.com. That’s c h a p-s-b-r-n-t at yahoo.com. Uh if you have any questions, ask me. I am happy to reply and do that. Um the the thing I would leave is that is just that. So many of these folks think that their situation now is permanent, but there is a path back to restoration. Whether you’re a ministry leader, whether you’re a person who loves someone with moral injury, maybe even if you’re a person with moral injury yourself, there is a path of restoration back. Will you be exactly as how you were before? No. But God can redeem you, God can restore you, and God can use you, and you don’t have to feel like you’re a monster anymore. Thank you so much for those words, Larry, and for serving our veterans as you do. Uh, thank you from the bottom of my heart on behalf of my family. Sorry, I get emotional because it’s getting to be the two-year mark, and I’m like, and I’ve been thinking and just loving on my daddy recently. So this interview came and kind of just affirmed to me that um your work is valuable and it is something that God certainly intends for you to keep doing because there’s so many veterans that are suffering, and they don’t need to serve like that. They don’t need to pay the ultimate price, they already pay the ultimate price to provide us with the freedom. The least we can do is support them in this journey and to say thank you by listening to them, by being the coaches, the therapists, the people from the church. By the way, I am a life coach with the church, so it was sometimes we do we create those safe spaces for people to come in and just feel heard and seen and understood and just able to talk things out with us, right? So I I understand this concept very, very well. Um, I do want to thank you once again for being on the show and honoring us with your with your words and your wisdom. And for the listeners who release that reveal purpose, remember Matthew 5.14, to be the light, be the light like Larry’s been the light. This is this is who we are at our core. This is who God says we are. We are the light, he is the light, and he lives within us. And when we abide in him and abide in me as I abide in you, and we honor him with our deeds, and we honor him with our faith, despite whether we see our path or not, we just stay obedient and we repent and we come back to him. We will be on the right path to our identity and our calling, much like Larry and I have. So stay the course, stay obedient, stay discerning, and make sure that you don’t fall back to old patterns of thinking and behaving that you’re not worthy, because you are worthy just because you’re a daughter and a son of a king. So I want you to remember that every single day. Love you all. Bye now. Have a blessed week.
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